2:13 - "See Me" 2003-02-09

[maherjunkie]

Oh man! Using the homeless to paint your house and then calling it art therapy! That is the lowest of the low; right up there with "ketchup is a vegetable".

I'm surprised they didn't devote more time to the doctor's pathology, though considering those photographs I guess I'm glad they didn't.

[Patcat]

It's also, of course, one of the episodes that reveal a great deal about Goren. My impression is that Eames knows about his mother's illness, and has for a while. This is also a case where Goren's background allows him insights into the case that another detective might lack.

Patcat

[joanie]

It was a true Goren moment when he asked to examine the homeless guys over sized feet.

It would have been a riot had he done a scratch and sniff toe jam test ! (Can you imagine Deakins and Eames expression? )

[cifan]

I was just waiting for something like that to happen. I think he showed a lot of restraint...for Goren!

[spaniard]

I just saw it on dvd, giving it the proper time to replay certain scenes. I understand that at the end Goren doesn't get mad at the supect because he is sick and Goren understands him very well but I don't understand why Goren isn't more pissed off at the suspect when he sees what the doctor has done to sick people that share Goren's mother's illness.

I would be mad if someone took advantage of people that can't defend themselves especially if this guy that plays God is focused on people like my mom. D'Onofrio knows how to look mad without being agressive and this time I saw him too quiet.

[Metella]

I thought they showed disgust when they busted them - & it seemed as if they were going to seize thier nice things and that they were going to be prosecuted for it - so I felt closure on that end.

I liked the drama of the timing when they burst into the treatment room.

[Cassie]

I also feel that Goren was NOT angry with the doctor, because his "intent" was to heal people. There was no "intent" for selfish gain on his part. Remember the doctor was way behind in his collections of past due services. It was the Garcia's that were looking to make a buck off of the schizophrenia patients, not the doctor

but I wonder, where was the doctors money coming from if he wasn't paying attention to his Accounts Receivables? He Had to be wealthy I guess, and what about his family, didn’t' they know he had issues?

[spaniard]

The Garcias were the bad ones but so was the doctor before they knew why he was doing what he was doing. When they showed the photos of the damaged eyes to the Garcias the detective still didn´t know what was really going on with the doctor and they don´t look too angry about it.

[Techguy]

I don't think Det. Goren and Eames are disgusted with Dr. Dysart so much as determined to stop him from performing any more surgeries when they burst in on him during his last attempt. If they are disgusted with anyone, it is with the Garcias, the so-called champions of the disabled, and how they hire out their residents for cheap labor and pocket the funds allocated for the patients' therapy. Dysart was never in the ophthalmology for the money--even Eames comments at the end that Dysart must be crazy because he was the only one NOT in it for the money.

I also detect a distinct change in Goren's attitude and demeanor toward Dysart after he (Goren) starts to piece together Dysart's past life and his going to Amsterdam once he (Dysart) became obsessed with Vincent Van Gogh. Dysart's descent into schizophrenia must have struck a powerful emotional chord with Goren. Most especially in the final interrogation room scene, I could see in Goren's body language and hear it in his carefully chosen words of empathy and sympathy with Dysart's plight.

The interrogation room is Goren's arena of truth-telling via confrontation as he strips away a suspect's defenses. With Dysart, Goren is gentle and understanding most likely because of how he (Goren) has had to deal with his mother's condition for years. I believe in the final scene Goren is on the phone to his mother or her doctor, and then suddenly leaves because he needs to reassure her--and himself--that her illness is not her fault. Just like it is not Dysart's fault either.

ETA: I also detect in Det. Goren a slight glimmer of hope that Dysart was on to something with his theories about how correcting a defect in the eye might possibly "cure" someone of their delusions--and perhaps somehow benefit Goren's mother? It is a very brief and quickly fleeting grasping for straws for sure, because Goren realizes what the unnecessary eye surgeries did to Dysart's patients.

[Metella]

you are right - my word of disgust did not fit in that context - and did belong only to the Garcia's.

[sarahlee]

techguy, once again you say so clearly exactly what I was thinking.

[Cassie]

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The song also reminds me of the Doctor from this episode

[Leonore]

Bumped this up because I watched this episode the other day. It is a great episode! The title alone, "See Me" resonates throughout the episode on so many levels. Is it a request or a demand or just a call from those often marginalized in our society? The doctor who is killed at the beginning is trying to see his brother-in-law and is blinded by the light of Dr. Dysart as he is murdered. The Garcias are seen as champions of the disabled, while the truth is far from what is shown. What Goren and Eames see and deduce and how they have to show the Garcias' corruption to Carver. Carver saying he had to see it to believe it.

Dr. Dysart, blinded by his illness, doing horrible things to his patients eyes to "cure" them. Backwards logic, looking through mirrors, perceptions of what is real and what isn't all depend on how you look at the characters' actions and motives. In other words, how we see them as they are revealed and then have to refocus our own perceptions.

Goren's dance, waltzing around the interrogation room, moving effortlessly as he weaves his tale, coming closer and closer toward Dysart and the truth is masterfully choreographed. The "look" on Dysart's lawyer's face when he finally "sees" the truth is great!

An entertaining episode that enables us to see Goren and Eames following the clues as the thread of the story unravels. One of my favorites from Season 2. I always find myself watching the actors' eyes in this episode!