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Post by Patcat on Dec 1, 2004 10:34:59 GMT -5
Not sure where this should go, so I'll try here:
Which L&O boss would you want: Van Buren, Deakins or Cragin? (I'm going to leave the lawyers alone.)
Patcat
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Post by Metella on Dec 1, 2004 11:29:04 GMT -5
Tie between Cragin and Deakins; they are both good old cops, both seem to be totally clean cops.
It just depends on MY mood as to which one would click best with me.
Van Buren seems to be a clean cop, but more concerned with her image; both as a cop and a person. I also have not got the feel that she is very street wise & ever really got down and dirty on a case.
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Post by Observer2 on Dec 1, 2004 15:38:57 GMT -5
For me it would be between Deakins and Van Buren. I like Van Buren’s no-nonsense style, but I would probably actually get along better with Deakins as a boss. Not necessarily with the version of him we saw in One... I think that was closer to the character as originally developed. But the character he has evolved into is one I could respect and feel comfortable with. He’s even so innocent in his flashes of old-fashioned sexism that I can’t hold them against him – especially since they don’t get in the way of his dealing with Eames as a competent cop.
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Post by Patcat on Dec 1, 2004 16:03:05 GMT -5
I agree that Deakins' occasional flashes of sexism--I even hesitate to call them that--shouldn't be held against him. He's of an old school that reflects a gentleman's code, which can be condescending. But I don't think Deakins means to be condescending when it happens, and I think Eames knows that.
Patcat
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 1, 2004 16:37:09 GMT -5
Frankly all bosses suck the big one, unless we, the minions, do the sucking. (Which sounds gross whichever way you look at it. ) Therefore I vote for Goren to go vigilante and salute them all on his way out. PS. This is also not another spurious post designed to get me to detective grade faster.
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Post by NikkiGreen on Dec 1, 2004 17:03:13 GMT -5
Going back ~14 years to the first season finale The Blue Wall...Captain Don Cragen. And while we're on the subject of Cragen and the first season... Next week's episode of Mothership features appearances by Capt. Cragen and Dr. Lowenstein (David Groh) in presumably a followup to the episode Indifference, which was based on the Lisa Steinberg murder.
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Post by Metella on Dec 2, 2004 19:03:25 GMT -5
12 more MEANINGFUL posts, Sirenna and you join the ranks of detective.
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Post by romulanavatra3 on Dec 2, 2004 21:52:19 GMT -5
okay here goes cragen he whines to much( i mean no wonder he has no hair left,) he is such sour grape all the time, mind you i can understand that being i charge of soemthing like SVU but losen up a bit would before you give yourself a coronary. no deakins is alright he is a agree a little bit stuck in the past in some of his atititudes and manners, most of the time it does not really matter alought in the botxo episode you could see that his( and carver and gorens for that matter) slightly irked eames. i think he is a good boss a little to much of a pollitical animal and a tad to willing to follow the offical line(he sucks up to his bosses to much at times). van burean is good but whats this hear that her hair is a wig( is this for real). i think she is the best so far because she has the kind of atittude that would expeact from a boss, agro when she needs to be, the kind of tough no nonsense sort of attitiude without being unnessciarily petty or agressive to the people under her command. i also think it is aobut damn time she got pormotted please for gods sake she been a luitenant( worn spelling im sure) long enough make her a captain guys( i mean they cant hate her that much that they are going to be petty an refuse to promoter can they). reagrds all rom.
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 2, 2004 23:19:36 GMT -5
12 more MEANINGFUL posts, Sirenna and you join the ranks of detective. yeah!
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 2, 2004 23:25:27 GMT -5
okay here goes cragen he whines to much( i mean no wonder he has no hair left,) no deakins is alright he is a agree a little bit stuck in the past in some of his atititudes and manners, most of the time it does not really matter (he sucks up to his bosses to much at times). van burean is good but whats this hear that her hair is a wig( is this for real). i think she is the best so far i also think it is aobut damn time she got pormotted please for gods sake she been a luitenant( worn spelling im sure) long enough make her a captain guys( i mean they cant hate her that much that they are going to be petty an refuse to promoter can they). reagrds all rom. ;D ;D This was a most entertaining post. Thanks Rom! Beware of the Hair. I could easily[/b] reach silver shield investigator on the strength of the Great Hair Debate alone!
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Post by janetcatbird on Dec 3, 2004 16:50:34 GMT -5
While Cragen does have some wonderful lines--or at least he did on the mothership, I haven't watched much SVU--I think he'd be a bit grating to work for everyday. You can get used to anything, I suppose, but he's not my first choice.
Deakins I woudn't mind working for, but I wish the writers would do more with him so it could be a definite "Yes, I'd like to be with him" as opposed to a mild "Well, no reason not to."
Van Buren, the one I'm most familiar with, is the one I would like most to work under. Smart, knows her stuff--Metella, where do you get that image thing? In one episode she mentioned how she used to work undercover, "Maybe one night I'll break out my fishnets and give someone the night off". She may be self-aware, but that's probably due to being a black woman, she'd have to be aware of her professional presence. She's definitely the boss, and she acts like one. Supportive, but if you're not doing your job she will call you on it. Elsewhere I've called her a mama-you-don't-mess-with. Maybe I'm just used to that sort of atmosphere from my parents' work, I dunno. Anyways, that's my two cents.
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Post by Metella on Dec 3, 2004 21:02:02 GMT -5
Janetcatbird, sure - I agree with you for the most part ..... but that type of personality I wouldn't like to work under.
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Post by maherjunkie on Sept 17, 2005 11:50:14 GMT -5
I agree that Deakins' occasional flashes of sexism--I even hesitate to call them that--shouldn't be held against him. He's of an old school that reflects a gentleman's code, which can be condescending. But I don't think Deakins means to be condescending when it happens, and I think Eames knows that. Can you name an example? I'd work for him cause he seems the sweetest. Patcat
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Post by maherjunkie on Sept 17, 2005 11:51:24 GMT -5
Oops, sorry Patcat, now it looks like you wrote it.
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Post by MelTex on Sept 19, 2005 14:28:23 GMT -5
I think of the 3, I would most likely work for Deakins. There were a few times, were he would really throw up that Blue Wall, if any cops or law enforcement were suspected in Goren and Eames' cases. That aggravated me a little. And if there are any high ranking political schmucks involved in an investigation...Deakins sometimes likes to steer-clear. But thats probably pretty realistic of what they really have to deal with. I do wish they'd let Sheridan in the spotlight more often (like in "My Good Name"). Cragen was great in the mothership, but in SVU he tends to sound B***hy after a while. Course, with Stabler nearly killing suspects in the interrogation room...I guess I'd be a B***h too. *smirk*
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