eva
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Post by eva on Jan 29, 2009 14:42:11 GMT -5
I mean in a situation where it was Alex's child, wouldn't she be the mother on the birth certificate and wouldn't she have to give up the baby for adoption? Sorry, my thoughts are running wild here... I'm not really sure here, it depends on the country and its laws. But as far as I know the surrogate isn't mentioned on the birth certificate. There's no need to give the child up for adoption, because there usually is already some kind of contract- I think- and other paperwork done before the whole "procedure" begins. I wouldn't take money from my sister and I don't think Eames did (I write about the case as if it was real ;D ). But I'm sure it wasn't easy, even for a person like her. Even if you know the whole time that it's not *yours*- technically. But there are so many moments during a pregnancy that are fascinating. And let's not forget the hormones. Three days after giving birth I cried without really knowing why ;D Oh, I forgot something: You know, I've always thought that Eames, being a Detective,was a poor choice as a surrogate. I mean, she runs after perps, gets shot at, might possible get slugged by a fleeing felon. I would have worried if I were her sister. I suppose the desire to have a chid superseded the risk for everyone involved. Well, the sister comes from a family of cops, too, so maybe she is much more relaxed about it than we would probably be. A Detective wouldn't be my first choice, either. But who knows, if my sister had such a job and I was in such a situation, maybe I would prefer someone I can really trust in such a delicate matter over a stranger, too.
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Post by tjara on Jan 29, 2009 17:07:55 GMT -5
evaYou're right - it depends on the law. NY State law requires the surrogate to waver her custody rights no matter whether the child is biologically hers or not: As to who is listed on the birth certificate: But what really strikes me is the following sentence: www.surrogacy.com/legals/article/nylaw.htmlPatcatYou're right of course - it depends on why her sister needed a surrogate in the first place. And since it wasn't mentioned, we will never know, will we?
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Post by dragonsback on Jan 29, 2009 21:13:21 GMT -5
Just a throw-in here, some info relating to the various laws around the world re surrogacy, both genetic and gestational. www.eurasianet.org/departments/civilsociety/articles/eav032906.shtml In brief Europe and much of Scandinavia sas no, the UK says okay but no loot, and the US says , bring your bankroll. , and the new 'business' of surrogacy in former USSR satellite Georgia: Excerpt: In Austria, Germany, Norway and Finland, surrogacy is illegal. In the United Kingdom, surrogacy can be offered only for women who have no other way to have a child - - and only compensation for medical expenses can be paid. France, Denmark, Israel and The Netherlands forbid payment of any kind to surrogate mothers.
In the United States, however, surrogate mothers can charge fees of up to $20,000 depending on the state in which the process is legal. This does not include legal costs and other expenses that could raise the total cost to $70,000 or more.
By comparison, Georgia – as well as neighboring Russia -- provides commercial surrogates at a considerable discount. Surrogates set the price, depending on the methods used. Traditional surrogacy -- artificial insemination of the father’s sperm into the surrogate’s egg, which she will carry to term -- is more expensive than gestational surrogacy, in which the surrogate’s genetic information has no influence on the child. The surrogate in this case is only a "carrier."
For Georgian couples ....the minimum price for gestational surrogacy is usually $5,000, while foreigners can expect to pay double that. The fee does not include medical expenses and compensation for work loss
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Post by tjara on Jan 30, 2009 5:47:36 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing me to the article, DB. That was interesting! (and somewhat shocking, too)
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Post by dragonsback on Jan 30, 2009 6:10:35 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing me to the article, DB. That was interesting! (and somewhat shocking, too) My investigation was prompted by your passing and very in-the-know comment about the law in Austria, so all kudos to you. There has been some speculation: are you Austrian or passing-for? Are you..... Australian? I have placed my own bet that you are truly mittel-European.
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Post by tjara on Jan 30, 2009 10:06:46 GMT -5
Whoa - I've been the topic of speculation? ;D And I thought the point "Location" beneath my avatar would give me away... Anyway, to clear it up - I'm a "pure-bred" Austrian. I guess my attitudes therefore would pass as annoyingly middle-european But, I also very much "love" the United States, my home for 11 months (August 2000 - June 2001) for when I was an exchange student. This is how I learned the language... I'm happy to have two families, my genetic family here in Austria, and my American family. I'm also a history student - with a special interest in US history. Questions?
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Post by Patcat on Mar 3, 2011 9:12:37 GMT -5
Bump for EOTW.
Patcat
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