digresser
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Post by digresser on Feb 27, 2006 19:40:41 GMT -5
Crooked Hearts will be airing twice this March in the USA. Here are the times: Mon Mar 13 11:42P on Lifetime Movie Network Tue Mar 14 10:57A on Lifetime Movie Network You can't help but admiring the starting times. I know that at 11:42pm on Mondays I'm always desperate to start watching a movie. Also, Strange Days and other Vincent D'Onofrio films will be airing in the USA in March. Here's a link you can use to check: www.tv-now.com/stars/donofrio.html
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Post by liz99 on Feb 28, 2006 18:54:09 GMT -5
He actually made a Lifetime movie?
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Post by Patcat on Mar 1, 2006 0:40:50 GMT -5
This isn't a Lifetime made for TV movie--it's a real one.
Patcat
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Post by ragincajun on Apr 1, 2007 14:33:59 GMT -5
Thought he was ok in this movie, but found it too long and drawn out. But Charlie, needed medical help, to think you need the family to hate you to get away from the family? Just move out.
VDO and Noah Wyle in the same movie, a dream come true.
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Post by Patcat on Apr 1, 2007 21:27:16 GMT -5
The father of this family is a real piece of work. He creates an atmosphere where the children can't function outside the family, claiming that family is all, and then betrays the family. No wonder Charlie burns the house down.
Patcat
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Post by annabelleleigh on Feb 20, 2009 12:33:16 GMT -5
Set your DVRs -- Encore Drama is offering a rare airing of this film on Friday, February 27, 2009 at 3:15 AM ET.
Also: Monday, April 20, 2009 at 2:20 AM.
AL
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Post by DonnaJo on Feb 20, 2009 13:31:00 GMT -5
Set your DVRs -- Encore Drama is offering a rare airing of this film on Friday, February 27, 2009 at 3:15 AM ET. AL I can't believe it. Thanks for the heads up, Annabelle. Luckily, I do get the Encore stations. This small film with a big cast is pretty good. I have to say that Vincent plays the tall, hunky rebel/bad boy with real style. He could have made a good living stereotyping himself. but he wanted to be involved in important "Indie" films.
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Post by annabelleleigh on Feb 28, 2009 16:25:47 GMT -5
I tend to value a movie by the length of time it sticks with me after the final credits fade. I saw "Crooked Hearts" for the first time yesterday and I haven't yet digested it.
If all unhappy families are unhappy in their own way, then all films about dysfunctional families are flawed in their own way too. This one is no different. However-- finally -- a film starring (the first-billed) Vincent D'Onofrio that feels like a full meal.
Has anyone else seen it recently for the first time?
AL
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Post by Patcat on Feb 28, 2009 16:43:49 GMT -5
AL--what was your reaction to the father?
Patcat
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Post by DonnaJo on Mar 1, 2009 16:37:07 GMT -5
This was my second viewing of the film. I enjoyed it a bit more this time. A few spoilers.....
Some of the dialog is very cliched & forced, like Charlie (VDO) saying "This family is a drug and we're all junkies." And Tom answering the "I love you" comment from his old girlfriend (who cheated on him with his own brother and married yet another guy), "If you loved me any more, no man in town would be safe."
I've seen more dysfunctional families in my time than this one. Why Charlie stayed around and did the stupid, crazy things he did (all to "escape" the family) was a bit far fetched. I've seen worst fathers in my time than that. His unique way of embarrassing his kids, by toasting to their screw ups, was f*cked up, sure. But I also blame the Mom, who let him do it.
I thought Noah Wyle and a young Juliette Lewis were both excellent.
And Jeanette - the waitress - was she doing both Charlie and his Dad back in the day? Maybe that's why Charlie was so mental?
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Post by annabelleleigh on Mar 2, 2009 14:22:34 GMT -5
AL--what was your reaction to the father? On the surface an affable postmodern Ward Cleaver. I can't decide whether he's somewhat the manipulator or simply in denial of his own behavior. I didn't like the fact that he seemed inured of his waitress-lover's loneliness and longing. What do you think? AL
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Post by sandy on Mar 2, 2009 14:47:32 GMT -5
And Jeanette - the waitress - was she doing both Charlie and his Dad back in the day? Maybe that's why Charlie was so mental? That's what I thought was going on: Charlie is in love (or at least has a crush on) Jeanetta, his father is also sleeping with her, therefore cheating on Charlie's mom. Add to that the rest of the dysfunction, and Charlie is quite messed up.
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Post by Patcat on Mar 3, 2009 9:54:58 GMT -5
Oh, I loath that father. I hate hypocrisy, and he seems the ultimate hypocrite. I'm not a parent, so I probably have no real room to discuss this, but I believe parents are supposed to help a child become an independent, functioning adult. This man claims to love his children but cripples them emotionally. He claims his family is everything, but he destroys it by having sex with Jeanetta. He's a manipulative jerk. I'm not surprised Charlie is messed up; I'm just surpised he didn't burn the house down with his father in it.
Patcat (who grew up in a push me pull you household)
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Post by Patcat on Mar 3, 2009 13:51:14 GMT -5
Was I clear enough about my feelings about the father? (g)
SPOILER ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I was very upset by what I thought was the unnecessary death of Noah Wylie's character in this film. A coworker of mine explained that this character had to die. "He's like the little sister in LITTLE WOMEN. He's good for this world. He has to die."
I fear for the surviving children if we really do turn into our parents.
Personal family story that may explain why I dislike the father (then again, may explain nothing except how petty I am). My family lived in a two bedroom house. My brother got the small bedroom. I briefly got the slightly bigger bedroom until it became obvious my parents needed to have a quieter place to sleep. (I do not begrudge them this.)
I slept in the dinning room, which was open to the rest of the house. No privacy. From the time I was ten until I left for college, I offered suggestions. We had a full basement with a couple of closed areas. I wanted to make a room down there. Couldn't be done. I finally gave up, headed off to college. Came back at Thanksgiving break and discovered my parents had finally created a small room for me. That room, which I barely used since I spent as much time at college as possible, became the symbol of my relationship with my parents, which went along the lines of "We can't wait for you to leave" followed by "Why don't you visit us more often?"
Yes, I know I'm lucky to have had a bed.
Thank you for the therapy session. I think I need to take some more Advil.
Patcat
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Post by ragincajun on Mar 3, 2009 15:02:20 GMT -5
Not to complain about my parents, they gave me a lot. But the saying you raise your kids and they come back. My two older brothers are 12 and 14 yrs older than me. So mostly I was raised as an only child. So I got to pick what room I wanted out of the three bedrooms, at one time or another each room was my room. Well after my brothers got married, I don't recall the reason they had to move back home and I became roomless. I ended up on a cot in the front foyre! Right by the front door. So there was no sleeping late, everyone who came in through the front door passed by my cot. Finally mom put a sign on the door to use the back door. I was 9 at the time. Guess they figured I wouldn't be bothered by it but I was. It only lasted a year, but then one of my brothers lost his wife and moved back with his son and my grandmother moved in for awhile so I had to share a room with Grandma for a few years. I might have hated it then, but now I miss her and wish I had that time back, but then few years later, I was back to my pick of rooms. I know this is way OT, but your story reminded me of that. Thanks for the memories.
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