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Post by maherjunkie on Oct 29, 2009 20:01:29 GMT -5
Maybe he just wants to have fun. Why would it be anything but a tribute to the gay community if that?
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Post by idget on Oct 29, 2009 21:23:23 GMT -5
I haven't had time to see the clip yet, but I would think an actor who has played a bisexual porn star and a gay cop (Nunzio's second cousin) would have a pretty good reputation in the gay community. Perhaps he is trying to make a point in the same way Carrol O'Connor's Archie Bunker did.
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Post by Moonbeam on Oct 29, 2009 21:28:19 GMT -5
Hey, if the guy wants to express himself and/or his politics disguised as a "character," who am I to argue with that?
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Post by vdofan1 on Oct 29, 2009 22:08:28 GMT -5
Maybe he did it to see if he could. He hasn't created an outrageous performance/characterization in a few years. Maybe he thought it would be fun and something others could enjoy. It's never really seemed to me, that he or his career has ever followed a master plan.
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Post by DonnaJo on Oct 30, 2009 5:50:24 GMT -5
I'm sure you are all right about VDO's intent. And spoofing a redneck country star to present his world views is certainly a unique approach. Well, if this is what he wants to do right now with his free time, so be it.
I guess I was hoping that he left LOCI for a much bigger venue. Like co-starring in a blockbuster film, or starring in another television series. Now that he's fifty years of age and free from his LOCI contract, I wish that he would get himself a business manager. He is way to talented to play clubs at $15 a seat. Like vdofan said, it could be something he wanted to try. Maybe now it's out of his system.
I see actors who are less talented making big names for themselves. I just want Vincent to receive his due. After 25+ years in the business, he deserves it.
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Post by Patcat on Oct 30, 2009 8:24:08 GMT -5
I saw the singing of "It's Raining Men" as funny. What song is an old country singer least likely to be singing? "It's Raining Men" would be at the top of my list.
Patcat
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Post by wilmingtonfan on Oct 30, 2009 10:35:26 GMT -5
Apparently (from those who were there) he talked about gays in the military (pro) and then launched into this song. I think it is very funny, especially in that light.
Also, VDO starts filming Down & Dirty in January and just finished filming his last CI episode (I think -- but onlocation keeps posting filming sites and the next episode doesn't start filming until Nov. 9, so they are still obviously filming some scenes for the first 2 episodes). He needs to prep for his next film and the holidays are also in there, so doing George Gerkie at this time makes perfect sense to me. His film "Don;t Go Into the Woods" is showing at the Slamdance Film Festival at the end of January and he is working on finding a distribution deal for it. He seems pretty busy to me (and all of this was in the works before it was announced he was leaving CI). I am sure that he is now looking for other projects. I personally hope he has time to do another George Gerkie show -- everyone enjoyed it so (especially VDO apparently). And a lot of movies stars play in bands and do other things between movies. I think this is even better because he developed a character to perform -- more effort and work involved.
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Post by annabelleleigh on Oct 31, 2009 12:07:05 GMT -5
As much as I vowed to ignore it, I found myself watching the YouTube video of VDO aka "George Gerkie" singing "It's Raining Men."
Honestly, to me, that man is a cloud of charisma floating around a train wreck. One can't help but look.
Now that he's shed Bobby Goren's skin what immediately becomes apparent is the difference between Vincent D'Onofrio and his alter ego. Would anyone ever -- in her wildest daydreams -- imagine Goren dressed in a blond wig and sharkskin suit pretending to be an aging, ga-ga, country-western singer? Not a chance.
But Vincent D'Onofrio -- sure. His career, taken as a whole, is a roller coaster of odd and provocative choices. His personal life -- if one believes any of the rumors -- has been the same. Mysterious, messy, sometimes off the rails -- but always BIG. To paraphrase Billy Joel, this actor is a guy who goes to extremes. Playing Bobby Goren is probably the most quotidian thing he's ever done.
As for singing "It's Raining Men" -- it was a bizarre and eye-widening performance but also funny. In fact, the whole "George Gerkie Cowboy Experience" -- especially timed as it was -- seems to be Vincent D'Onofrio letting everyone know he's not Bobby Goren. I believe I can perhaps understand his need to do that.
The question remains: Will VDO's fans let him let Goren go?
AL
P.S. Will this site ever get back to being (mainly) about "Law & Order: Criminal Intent"? Really. I want to know.
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Post by maherjunkie on Oct 31, 2009 12:17:50 GMT -5
No. Just as CN will always be Logan/Big. I think your analysis is spot on as Gerkie.
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Post by wilmingtonfan on Oct 31, 2009 12:20:01 GMT -5
I guess that is the difference between us. To me LOCI is VDO & KE and without them it isn't much. It's a different kind of show than the mothership.
EOTW is still going strong -- what else is there really to talk about other than EOTW and what is happening to the key characters on the show? (....opening myself to mega criticism here......) I am not trying to be snippy, but I really want to know. The departure of VDO, KE & EB is such a drastic change to the show it seems obvious that it will dominate the boards, especially in the absence of any new shows being on the air.
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Post by annabelleleigh on Oct 31, 2009 12:46:59 GMT -5
M-Junkie: You're probably right. But I suspect that the more the public tries to pigeonhole D'Onofrio as Bobby Goren, the more flamboyantly he'll try to free himself.
W-Fan: I know this is a topic for another thread but I do hope that this site returns to its focus on CI. Jeff Goldblum -- whom I've never taken much note of before -- has shown a lot of promise in his incipent creation of Det. Zach Nichols. The show still has a solid concept. As much as I deplore the dumping of three characters in a two-part episode, I'm not giving up on it yet. I hope I'm not alone here.
AL
P.S. I'm not suggesting that we forget Goren -- or Eames -- but I think it would a mistake to close ourselves off to what lies ahead in Season 9.
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Post by maherjunkie on Oct 31, 2009 12:56:58 GMT -5
I think as Bobby goes, so goes the nation ;D. The heart is gone, so why bother... At least for most fans anyway.
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Post by tjara on Oct 31, 2009 13:36:06 GMT -5
While I do think VDO is identified with Bobby Goren, I do think it's not as "bad" as with some other actors. Vincent had given a few memorable performances before doing CI, so I think he has less problems being tied to that character than other actors to their respective TV-roles.
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Post by Patcat on Oct 31, 2009 15:17:58 GMT -5
Bobby Goren is the role most people will certainly identify Mr. D'Onofrio with, and I can't help but think that's a better thing than say, Edgar the Bug Man in MEN IN BLACK. But I think he's too talented an actor to be limited to just Goren (although it's hard for me to think of Goren as a limited role). One of the the many things I appreciate about LOCI is that it introduced me to Mr. D'Onofrio's other work, especially THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD and HAPPY ACCIDENTS. I look forward to what he's going to do next. It may not be the easiest thing to watch, but I'm sure, like AL, I won't be able to turn away from it.
And I'll continue to give LOCI a try. I liked Mr. Goldblum and Zack Nichols. I didn't see either the performance or character as "fluffy", but as an interesting variation on the eccentric detective.
And I'm going to need another TV boyfriend, what with Monk and Goren leaving (sigh).
I also hope we can continue to discuss the show here. For one thing, I like you people (g); for another, I think there's things we can talk about.
Patcat
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Post by Techguy on Nov 1, 2009 3:31:04 GMT -5
I do hope that this site returns to its focus on CI. Jeff Goldblum -- whom I've never taken much note of before -- has shown a lot of promise in his incipent creation of Det. Zach Nichols. The show still has a solid concept. As much as I deplore the dumping of three characters in a two-part episode, I'm not giving up on it yet. I hope I'm not alone here. I'll continue to give LOCI a try. I liked Mr. Goldblum and Zack Nichols. I also hope we can continue to discuss the show here. For one thing, I like you people (g); for another, I think there's things we can talk about. I'll join both of you in giving CI a chance next season, to see where JG will take Nichols. I also like both the actor and the character, and do NOT in any way blame JG for the debacle and fiasco NBCU and USA created.
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