Post by annabelleleigh on Jun 16, 2011 12:58:32 GMT -5
As always, I need to note the writer: Julie Martin, who joined LOCI in the sixth season under showrunner Warren Leight and left with him at the end of S8.
Martin -- as many of us know -- contributed more story ideas than teleplays to the show When writing she has often worked with collaborators, most memorably with Kate Rorick on both "Endgame" and "Frame." I find her solo work less compelling, and "Cadaver" is no exception. The Tiger Mom scenario (like the Charlie Sheen ep) was "ripped" from headlines of already-decomposing newspapers, and therefore lacked the draw of immediacy. The perp was obvious from Act 1. Perhaps Martin was saddled with the story.
Next week she tackles the equally moldy Spiderman-derived "Icarus." Let's hope for better.
AL--Perhaps it's that I don't watch a lot of TV beyond LOCI, PBS, TCM, and Animal Planet (cute animal babies!), but I haven't seen any show based on the SPIDERMAN musical's problems.
I put the Tiger Mom story along with LOCI's many toxic parent stories. I wasn't particularly shocked by the whole Tiger Mom story when it first appeared, To me, it sounded a lot like the old story of parents trying to live through or make their children what they want them to be.
Post by outerbankschick on Jun 16, 2011 17:20:09 GMT -5
I did not find that the perp was obvious from the beginning. In fact, it wasn't until Goren and Eames talked to the sister that I suspected her. I thought Cadaver was an excellent episode! I am not up on all of the writers, but Julie Martin did well, IMO. The family dynamics that were showcased were well thought out, well-written, and tied right into the LOCI history of terrible parents, as Patcat has highlighted.
Can't wait for Icarus. I am rabid to see Spiderman - despite its mechanical problems, I have heard it's a fabulous show!
This season has been SO great! I am so glad that they are giving Goren and Eames a proper sendoff.
BTW, AL, every L&O epi from the beginning of time is "ripped" - and not always from obviously recent cases, so I don't see your point there. I actually wasn't looking forward to the fact that they were going to do the Charlie Sheen thingy only because I'm sick of that creep - but Jay Mohr did a great job with it. It wasn't an epi that totally grabbed me - but not because anything was wrong with it - it was because, as I said, I'm totally sick of Ol' Charlie. These days he seems to have crawled under a rock and I hope he stays there until he sobers up and gets his head out of his ass.
For some reason I don't think we'll be given realistic closure about Goren and Eames and their situations. The way things are going in these shrink sessions, I fear that things will be either left hanging, or worst, the closure will be something ridiculous and unrealistic (Goren asks Eames or the doctor out on a date).
I'm pinning my hopes - at this point - on Rene having rewritten the final episode. Because otherwise I could completely see your scenario coming true and I really wouldn't like it.
I think Rene also wrote the final episode of original L&O and while it wasnt' written as a series finale, it had a nice sense of closure, but you got the sense that the characters went on about their business, which I very much liked and would love to see replicated on CI.
Actually, I am not worried at all about the ending. It will most likely be open ended. It is also not going to be shippy - though I know our shippers would love that!
When ER ended, it was "fade to black" after a typical day. Just because the show ended, didn't mean they had to do the nighttime soap thing and kill everyone off or blow up the hospital. Life goes on. And so will life at MCS.
I think the writers this year have been good, and that is HUGE for me! Bobby and Alex have been in character - as we know them. After the ridiculous debacle of Loyalty Part 2, where the writer had Bobby going totally off the rails into a characterization that was so totally NOT like him, I was worried we would get more of the same. We didn't, and that's awesome!
And can I just give another shout-out to Chris Brancato for an awesome job as showrunner! He walked into a show with a lot of history and he's done a fabulous job of honoring it! Bravo!
Post by outerbankschick on Jun 16, 2011 17:35:26 GMT -5
Moonbeam, in that moment, I think my focus was so much on the daughter that I didn't think anything of the mother's involvement. And I have quite a lot of experience in the Asian community, so her behavior really did not seem "off" to me at that point. Asian Mamas get in involved in their children's business on a regular basis!
I actually suspected that Sam Harris had a thing going with Mya at first, too, but then it became clear after they talked to her about the bar that she had used him as an alibi.
Post by alliehalliwell on Jun 20, 2011 15:29:49 GMT -5
Just saw this episode last night. I actually really liked it. I liked the fact that the victim, was as someone earlier stated, 'sympathetic'. I didn't expect the twist with Sam Harris being his kid... I liked the bit where Goren was interrogating him and saying 'she poisoned you' and Sam stating he hated his father and he was a sperm donor and nothing else. Transference...I totally got the feel that this was a subtle reference to Goren and how he feels MFB is for him...not a real father of course. Don't know if anyone else thought this but that's what I felt during that scene.
I have to say I don't mind the psych sessions but I'm starting not to like the shrink. I think it's because Goren did clarify in the previous session that he can care about what someone thinks and respects them without it being sexual and here she was definitely implying that he had romantic feelings for her. As soon as she implied that, in the second before Goren got mad, I was like "Oh no, you idiot, that's NOT what he's saying and he's gonna be pissed" Then he was. Go figure.
I actually kind of felt it mean of Gyson/Guyson not to give Goren an answer when he asked her TWICE what she thought of his chances of having a life/family were. She could easily have said, "It's never too late but you may need to work on some things to keep a healthy relationship with whoever you choose" or "I don't see why not, you just need to set priorities..." or SOMETHING other than what she said. Give the guy some hope. Clearly during the session Goren was basically asking "I want a family but I feel hopeless...should I just give up or not?" and she basically told him to give up.
I think I would be a better psychiatrist for Goren than Gyson. Actually he needs to stop going to her sessions and start seeing me. I'll give him some hope.