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Post by rosemary on Feb 22, 2006 13:13:12 GMT -5
Interesting approach, Patcat. I also read some horse stories as I child. I remember that there are two different books called "Black Beauty". And you forgot to add "Fury" to the list. Yes, they are large and strong, and yes, they are easy to be controlled. But some people forget that, using too much brutality. And not all of them are skittish. But you have to remember that the horses' eyes are at the sides of it's head. When you're leading it, always walk a little behind it's head (in the Western world, you walk on it's left side). Always approach the horse from the same side side (in the Western world, the left). Don't force the bridle into its mouth brutally, otherwise the horse will try to put it's tongue over it or bite you. Straighten the horse's hairs a bit before you put the saddle on. Put it on the nape of the neck (the point were the measurements are taken) and shove it back gently to the right position. Some small horses will try to blow themselves up, so that the saddle cannot be strapped properly. Just wait a couple of seconds, the horse won't be able to hold it's breath forever. Always mount the horse from the same side (in the Western tradition: the left one). If you approach the horse this way, it won't be skittish.
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Post by kawaiidragonfoe821 on Feb 22, 2006 18:52:26 GMT -5
I was addicted to the black stallion stories when I was young, those are wonderful books.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Feb 22, 2006 22:50:58 GMT -5
I read Black Beauty and the Black Stallion as a kid but everytime I get near a horse and it neighs or moves I scream like a loon and run. Irrational, I know. Scared as I am of horses, I'm even more afraid of heights. I reacted so badly on ferris wheel the park wouldn't let me on anymore rides! Even the ones I wasn't afraid of!! *cracks up*
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Post by rosemary on Feb 23, 2006 4:58:52 GMT -5
I've never read The Black Stallion, but I saw it on tv. Well, heights are also a problem for me. Normally, I am just like Captain Kirk, I say: "I'm afraid of nothing". But if I were afraid of something…maybe heights. As a kid I always felt terrified in front of monuments. However, in a kind of love-hate relationship I collected small models of them and often drew pictures of, for example, the Eiffel Tower. I also climbed up several high buildings, just to show off that I'm not afraid. But as I once admitted, after climbing up the stairs to the Gniezno town hall tower: I'm a little afraid of heights. And a friend once explained it to me: Those who are afraid of heights feel tempted to jump into the deep. And darn, he's right, I think.
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Post by Patcat on Feb 23, 2006 9:40:09 GMT -5
I don't like planes, although I can now tolerate them (flying through a tornado left me with a feeling that "well, it can't get any worse than this"), and I do not like heights. I won't ride anything that gets above three feet.
But I really hate high bridges...loathe them...despise them...it's a near phobia.
Patcat (who wonders if Goren has any fears like that)
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Post by kawaiidragonfoe821 on Feb 23, 2006 10:22:23 GMT -5
LOL I'm arachophobic (petrified of spiders) & maybe a little queasy about the dark . rosemary>> I hightly recomend the Black Stallion books, the movies really don't do them justice, the only thing they got right was that they got Cass Ole' to play The Black, which was an excellent choice.
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Post by effie on Jan 26, 2007 8:37:42 GMT -5
As an Eagle Eye alert... I noticed something when this was on USA last night. The "expository" cop who always shows up at the beginning to give them (ok, usually Eames) 'just the facts...' was the same guy who would later play Charlie the fireman in "Maltese Cross."
Probably wouldn't have noticed it except MC was just on the other night.
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Post by ragincajun on Jan 26, 2007 10:36:12 GMT -5
Notice Chris Noth's Girlfriend, not sure if she still is, Tara Wilson played in this episode as the dead vets receptionist. She helped Eames with the files. Also wonder if the woman kept her baby.
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Post by Patcat on Jan 26, 2007 11:05:34 GMT -5
I wonder if she kept her marriage.
Patcat
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Post by effie on Jan 26, 2007 13:55:39 GMT -5
I suppose it depends upon how badly her husband wanted that son... and whether she was able to give it to him...
Unlike Homo Homini Lupis I didn't get the absolute sense that the marriage is doomed... likely, but who knows...
At least Pepper Pot didn't end up being owned by that witch Paige...
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Post by meggyd on Jan 28, 2007 20:47:48 GMT -5
I thought this was a really clever episode, but I had trouble getting really involved in it and invested in the outcome. Usually I find someone in each episode who's been wronged, that I can emphathise with, who is the victim that justice needs to be provided for. In this story, it was only the poor horse! Paige, Dale, the rich couple, all were so willing to do the wrong things and concerned with their own desires that there was a sense that everyone deserved all the bad things that happened to them. It was great that Goren and Eames managed to figure out all of the convoluted plots and plans and expose them, but everything seemed a bit more sordid and petty than usual.
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Post by sobergal95 on Jan 29, 2007 0:06:59 GMT -5
And the vet! All she wanted to do was her job and figure out why poor Mariah had internal bleeding. But then again, I remember the horse's name and not the name of the murdered woman. :(Its not one of my favorite episodes, but doesn't make the bottom of the list either. I kinda felt a little sorry for Dale: being set up for stud service by his murdering wife so she could get her own farm. At least he told them where the horse was (of course this was the same horse he was stuffing fullo smack, so maybe I don't feel all that bad for him after all).
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Post by DonnaJo on Jan 29, 2007 9:17:58 GMT -5
This episode is in my bottom 5 Goren/Eames episodes. Have tried to watch it several times to find some redeeming plot devices or characters. No luck.
The only part I like is when Goren does the horse whinney. Very good imitation. And the slip knot scene, that's cute.
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Post by Patcat on Jan 29, 2007 10:34:51 GMT -5
I found Dale a sympathetic character, one who did the wrong thing for what he thought was the right reason. I sensed that if he'd never met Paige he might have had a good life--it was clear that he loved horses and worked well with them, but her ambitions destroyed them both.
The actor who played Dale, Frederick Weller, gave a very good performance. It's not easy to play someone who's just not quite smart enough.
Patcat
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Post by Sirenna on Jan 29, 2007 10:58:42 GMT -5
This was not one of my all-time favourites but it's not on my worst list either. One thing I liked was making Dale the stud horse and a parallel to Mariah rather than his wife. If it was one of the female characters who got used like that, the story would have a had an SVU feel and be, well, pretty ordinary as plots go. By making Dale seem more like Mariah, the story looked at how gentleness can be abused. Dale was the most soft-hearted of all the characters - still a loser for feeding Mariah full of smack though.
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