effie
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Post by effie on Nov 6, 2006 23:50:35 GMT -5
Just wanted to pop this out there, as it was driving me nuts when I was watching this episode tonight on USA network and I kept trying to figure out where I'd seen Jojo's attorney before... so I had to look him up, and lo and behold... I'm not totally nuts (about this anyway)
The actor's name is
Jim Bracchitta
3. "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" - Best Defense (2002) TV Episode .... Vince Quitoriano - The Faithful (2001) TV Episode .... Father McShale's Attorney
plus he's been on about 6 episodes of the mothership in various roles. But I knew I'd seen him before, and now I know he's the one that cooked up the spousal abuse defense for Father McShale in "The Faithful."
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Post by gorensdoppelganger on Nov 7, 2006 13:32:24 GMT -5
I love the scene where Goren and Eames are at the apartment of the couple who were at the lawyer's home when the so called hit took place in their basement/wine cellar. The man is gossiping about how allegedly Bonham's wife made partner by sleeping her way to it rather then on merit. The way D'Onofrio plays the scene as Goren is hysterical. He mimics the man's movements, if you haven't caught this scene, try and watch it the next time, it's PRICELESS!!
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Post by sobergal95 on Nov 7, 2006 18:26:28 GMT -5
That is a great scene, GDG: its subtle but obvious. I like the scene when they are searching the "burglar's" apartment and are playing the girlfriend by saying they are going to tell him that she's been out running around on him. Then she pleads "please don't, he'll hit me". Goren just softens right up with her. On the one hand I believe he is driven to do his job well, but not always at the expense of damaging someone, especially someone already so damaged. I'm not saying the girl was entirely innocent, I'm sure she knew of her boyfriend's not so legal activities, and probably bent the law a time or two herself, but she wasnt evil. I think its another of Goren's insight into people and how they react due to abuse, mental illness or the like. On the other hand: I can understand a husband resenting not only his wife's success but that he felt so humiliated by losing to her in court that he had to come up with this scheme to frame her of attempted murder: well that's just evil in my opinion. It seems to me one of the two should have dropped off that big case: it would be inevitable that it would be more personal than trying a case against a stranger, someones feelings and ego would be hurt. (But I'm sure the guy figured he would win so he wasn't that worried about her feelings and in his passive/aggressive way would be putting her in her place). This isn't one of my most favorite episodes, but that scene when Goren is playing that snooty couple is one of my favorite scenes in the series.
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Leticia
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Post by Leticia on Nov 7, 2006 19:45:24 GMT -5
I love the scene where Goren and Eames are at the apartment of the couple who were at the lawyer's home when the so called hit took place in their basement/wine cellar. The man is gossiping about how allegedly Bonham's wife made partner by sleeping her way to it rather then on merit. The way D'Onofrio plays the scene as Goren is hysterical. He mimics the man's movements, if you haven't caught this scene, try and watch it the next time, it's PRICELESS!! That scene is totally hilarious, but I am intrigued by the motive for it. Why did Goren suddenly feel the need to do it? Why that man? Do you think it was in the script? In an odd coincidence we were covering nonverbal communication and specifically mimicry in one of my lectures today. Sadly it didn't shed much light on Goren's possible reasons as the man who he was mimicking couldn't see him (making most theory irrelevant) and the lecturer spent half the time showing us a lengthy clip from Blade Runner...
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Leticia
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Post by Leticia on Nov 7, 2006 19:48:15 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post but YES! Finally I am no longer a lowly Rookie!
<polishes her Silver Shield with pride>
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elizabethbay
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Oh god, I've swallowed the tie clip...
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Post by elizabethbay on Nov 7, 2006 20:45:38 GMT -5
I love the scene where Goren and Eames are at the apartment of the couple who were at the lawyer's home when the so called hit took place in their basement/wine cellar. The man is gossiping about how allegedly Bonham's wife made partner by sleeping her way to it rather then on merit. The way D'Onofrio plays the scene as Goren is hysterical. He mimics the man's movements, if you haven't caught this scene, try and watch it the next time, it's PRICELESS!! That scene is totally hilarious, but I am intrigued by the motive for it. Why did Goren suddenly feel the need to do it? Why that man? Do you think it was in the script? Don't know whose idea it was to play the scene this way, but it sure is one of the hand-clapping-est scenes of that season. I love it because it's positively subversive. Goren is taking the pi$$ out of these catty snobs - not in a clownish Robin Williams way, which would be inappropriate for an interview, but just as deadly. It's an in-joke, too. He's doing it for Eames' benefit (and ours ), accompanying every bit of snotty tosh that comes out the husband's mouth with jester's bells. All orchestrated behind their backs, of course, even as they're back-stabbing their supposed friends. Half the joke is that this charmless, pretentious couple think they're so very 'Park Avenue' ; Goren's mockery is his way of dissing them as 'social scramblers', Unfabulous Nobodies.
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Post by sarahlee on Nov 8, 2006 9:13:57 GMT -5
It's also another illustration of the relationship between Goren/Eames. We all have those "inside joke" moments with our friends, and this scene reminds us of that.
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effie
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Post by effie on Nov 8, 2006 10:33:40 GMT -5
I had to look at the episode order the other night when I was watching this. I know they FILM them in an order diffent from the order the AIR them in by times -- especially the episodes at the start of seasons.
Anyway... this was the episode right after "Anti-Thesis" which is only significant in that Goren mimicing the rich guy always makes me think of the little shoe-shopping scene in A-T. That sort of hyper-metrosexual male persona is such fun to watch.
Don't know that there's any real relation between the two scenes, but just interesting in their proximity. And that little floppy wrist flap on "my partner loves rumor and innuendo..." DEElightful.
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