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Post by Metella on Feb 11, 2004 17:32:24 GMT -5
I'm interested in what others here think about this issue as brought to national attention by J. Jackson.
I am very anti-censor for any adults for pretty much anything that doesn't harm fellow citizens. That includes drugs.
However, on a show that is watched by kids and a wide spectrum of citizens; many who are very personally conserative - I do think this was out of line. Not so much that it should still be buzzing on the headlines, but enough that a quiet inquiry should have been done and if it was found to be a stunt - a hefty fine should have been extacted from Justin and Janet alike.
I don't think youngsters should be exposed (yes, pun intended) to the dirty dancing that went on before the loss of coverage, let alone the finale. That is not to say I think it should be banned, but relagated to time or channel that parents are aware is open to this kind of thing. When yougsters are exposed to sexual abuse, the tendancy to act aggressively or promiscuously increases - and why not the same connection with this trash for trash's sake stuff?
The FCC reports receiving over 200 thousand complaints on this event. Then they got some over kid rock and his flag poncho - so then they dive into the ridiculous by claiming having the flag displayed this way is an insult - it seemed to me to be a point of pride for him. It is insulting to drap a flag over a coffin and imply that the death is the country's fault (well maybe it is - but why do that?) Oh - yeah, that's another political topic.
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Post by NikkiGreen on Feb 11, 2004 20:06:42 GMT -5
It was on the news earlier this week that MTV is moving videos with the likes of Brittany out of the daytime airing hours. They'll now be only on from 9:00 PM to 6:00 AM. I sometimes wonder how 'big' these artists would be in a different time and place where they had to rely just on their so-called talents? So, I have a question. Why didn't CBS object to Justin Timberlake appearing on the Grammys the way they did with Janet Jackson? Double-standard? I know she's stated that it was her idea, but JT could have refused to go along with it? Wardrobe malfunction, my fanny!
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Post by Metella on Feb 11, 2004 20:16:38 GMT -5
Not only the fake "oops" thing; but say it was supposed to have the colored bra show instead of skin .....
Justin's part was even sicker than Janet's - he was playing an aggressive/attacking parody & in a show like that he should be ashamed of himself. Want to play out pre-rape scenes? do it in the proper venue. I think he should be being raked over the coals also.
Double standard is alive and well.
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Post by coth on Feb 12, 2004 0:33:54 GMT -5
I probably should refrain from jumping into this topic, but I just have to. I have very mixed feelings about the half-time show. In some ways it seems to be much ado about nothing, but I can also understand the concerns some people have about this in regards to the innocent children that may have witnessed this.
In some respects, it seemed rather unimportant, and all of the persiflage surrounding it seemed a bit overblown to me. I do not mean this as an indictment, but did any of the self-righteous and indignant NFL and CBS execs ever watch MTV? In some ways, to me, this would be a bit like having PETA as your sponsor for mink coat sales. I was also totally annoyed by having Timberlake appear on the Grammys, while Janet Jackson was banned. Hyprocrisy? How about, who is selling the most records right now?
On the Kid Rock flag/poncho question. I spent almost 6 years in Air Force Intelligence (I know military intelligence is to intelligence as military music is to music), but I was there. His whole demeanor seemed very patriotic to me. A clue might have been the flags waving at the end of the song. I personally believe that burning or abusing the USA flag is stupid and unproductive, but I did not see that in this performance; and even if it did occur that is the freedom that we are supposed to embrace in this country.
I probably got a bit carried away here, but as someone who tries to seek truth hypocrisy really gets to me. To hear NFL spokesmen and even other men talk about how offended they were about JJ's exposure I only have one admonition. Stop downloading the image!
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Post by Metella on Feb 12, 2004 7:41:55 GMT -5
AIR FORCE !? Wild Blue Baby. I'm an air force brat I do consider myself pretty patriotic and I liked seeing the rock nut case wearing the poncho. Anyway - I'm glad you posted as I really am interested in what others think of this. I tired to make it clear, I also think the reaction by our elected officials has been far far overblown - but I still think in respect to the old, young, and repressed; this should be relegated to its proper place.
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Post by trisha on Feb 12, 2004 18:08:26 GMT -5
Great response, Coth.
I wasn't upset about the booby, but then my moppets didn't see it. Even if so, would they really have known what they saw? No. It was too fast.
Stop downloading the image, indeed. That is the only way to get a real look and know that her shield wasn't a pasty, anyway.
That is not to say that she should have given that exposer a second thought with the kids who would be watching in mind.
I'll say this, if her motives had anything to do with ending censorship, she just made us all take a huge step backward. If it was just to boost her exposer, she's a thoughtless asshole, and it pains me that it worked.
No thoughts on kid rock. I just plain can't stand him. Never could.
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