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Post by caseyswife on May 16, 2006 9:20:46 GMT -5
I think next years premiere should feature Goren and Eames busting some other plot of Adair's and taking his set up of their former Captain very personally. He is now one of the worst villains of CI, IMHO.
caseyswife
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Post by madger on May 16, 2006 10:10:20 GMT -5
I checked this episode out a second time, and I'm pretty sure Gore was Teary as he left Deakins office.
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Post by kawaiidragonfoe821 on May 16, 2006 10:10:25 GMT -5
I imagine he does have his 'friends' too but perhaps he was afraid that calling them out would throw the whole thing into a huge, dirty battle that would result in many good cops losing their jobs & such. I hate how Adair played on Deakins' sense of morality when they spoke..... i hate him, grrrrr. I'm beginning to think that he's worse then Nicole.
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Post by janetcatbird on May 16, 2006 10:48:29 GMT -5
I'm still not sure about the role of the secretary. (No, I didn't recognize chocolate Jimmy! But then, I'm awful with faces.) And the whole bathroom scene...ewwwww! I've lived in a dorm for three years and I haven't had to listen to that! Stepmother is nasty. Poor Glenn.
While I think the writers didn't make the situation convincing enough to explain the character leaving, the reaction itself seems to work with Deakins. Most cops--in the L&O universe, at least--have a fairly pragmatic attitude. Stuff happens, you deal with it, and try to minimize the damage. I can see Deakins reasoning along the lines of "I'm the only one getting hurt, but if I raise a stink it won't help any." Besides, wasn't he officially cleared, it was more lingering suspicion than facing trouble or penalties? At least, that's what I picked up on.
What I was mad about was Goren and Eames not doing more. We see them getting worked up about innocent people in trouble when they're strangers/people involved in the case. Shouldn't one of their own get the same treatment? Eames seemed a bit more upset, but that can be traced to coming from a family of cops and not wanting to see a good guy take a lot of mess. Good grief, if she didn't have any qualms about hacking into his computer I don't see why they wouldn't go to a supervisor or somebody.
I personally was hoping for a hug--knowing Eames it wouldn't be flinging her arms around his neck, but more of that handshake-turned-backslap thing, but I don't think that would have been out of character. Especially not privately in the office or anything. Like I said, in my own imagination Deakins worked with Hubby Eames when he was killed, and that would account for his fatherly attitude (you watch out for surviving families) but still remembering she's a good pro cop. Remember how gushy-daddy he was during the pregnancy?
Let's hope he comes back on occassion--I like the vindication route, caseyswife. "You screwed our captain!". To quote "My Name is Earl," karma.
--Catbird
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Post by Patcat on May 16, 2006 10:54:12 GMT -5
My take is that Goren and Eames (and likely Logan and Barek and Carver) were more than willing to push the case. But (and this was some excellent underwriting from the script and acting from Mr. Sheridan) everything about Deakins--his statements, his body posture--told them to leave it alone.
I suspect--or maybe more hope--that Deakins has arranged for his detectives to be protected.
Patcat
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Post by avemah on May 16, 2006 11:33:13 GMT -5
We can always hope Adair will try to go after Goren next. Because then we KNOW Goren will take him down with extreme prejudice :::imagines with glee:::
Personally I liked this episode. Eames and Goren got in some good lines, the stuff with Deakins was touching, and the bit with the case was interesting. I confess I'm not as good at analyzing every scene or facial expression as some, I just know what I like, and that's good enough for me. If I don't notice the passage of time, or if it sparks some emotion within, then I consider it a good episode. Which this was, for me.
My favorite scene was when Deakins told Goren and Eames to leave it alone, that he'd turned in his resignation. When he said it was enough that his detectives knew the truth--"His good detectives"-- got me right here :::places hand over heart:::
Ok, I'm a sap. I admit it...
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Post by goreamesfan on May 16, 2006 12:54:18 GMT -5
Catbird, I agree with you that hugs from Eames and Goren were in order and not unprecedented. Goren hugs a lot of people, including "victims" he hardly knows. But one thing just occurred to me: Carver wasn't telling Goren and Eames good-bye in that scene, just that he turned in his resignation. It was the last scene WE would see them in together, but Carver has 2 weeks left on the job. Since Goren and Eames weren't in the final episode, we just have to imagine what their good-bye was like -- and hope they showed at least a little more emotion than in this episode. Maybe I'm rationalizing, but it makes me feel a little better about their response.
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Post by Observer2 on May 16, 2006 22:09:46 GMT -5
Goreneamesfan, you're not just rationalizing (though you *are* getting the names confused -- ADA Ron Carver is not quitting, it's Captain Deakins who is leaving). Deakins told Goren and Eames to get back to work, and then said something along the lines of, "We'll hold the wake later." It was a nice touch, having him call it a wake -- Deakins is an Irish name, and the Captain's affect during certain scenes in Graansha suggested that he identifies with his Irish heritage. Calling it a wake also suggests getting together both to acknowledge the sadness and loss inherent in Deakins leaving his career, and also to reminisce and celebrate his time as a cop. Though we never got to witness any exchange more personal than his goodbye to Carver, that line about the wake tells us that there were more personal parts of the story that happened off-screen, and probably when all involved were off-duty.
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Post by goreamesfan on May 19, 2006 10:06:37 GMT -5
I finally watched the episode again last night, and if anything, I was even more disappointed in the reactions of Eames and especially Goren to Deakins' news. Flat, flat, flat. I don't know whether to blame the writing, the directing or the performances, but the season finale, Deakins' last episode -- and the fans -- deserved better.
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Post by BegToDiffer on May 23, 2006 10:41:07 GMT -5
I, too, was disappointed in this episode. They could have found a way for Deakins to retire with more dignity than just walking away from the mess. Once he was cleared, they should have had a nice retirement party and shared it with us. It would have soften the blow of losing Deakins. I will miss him. But then I got to thinking. Adair had years of doing favors for people, and Deakins did cross that "blue line" of turning in a bad cop. Plenty of cops would be suspicous of Deakins after that, some would even be willing to help Adair, which is just what happened. And we all know that sometimes, good guys finish last.
I was also thinking, how about Adair and Nicole in the same jail cell? (he-he)
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Post by Summerfield on May 24, 2006 20:59:43 GMT -5
But, the show isn't about Deakins. I thought they handled it properly. It would go against the format of the show if it had been about Deakins. CI has never been soapy. To diviate from the formula would have been wrong. As long time viewers, I think we can all agree we would see Deakins, Eames and Goren get together for "the wake." We don't need to see it to know it happened. That's the beauty of an hour long, self contained drama. Personally, I was satisfied with the handling of Sheridan's departure.
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Post by caseyswife on May 25, 2006 15:14:36 GMT -5
I can't believe it took three viewings for me to notice Eames' "WOO-HOO" comment!! Classic Eames snark -
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Post by Patcat on Jun 2, 2006 10:20:35 GMT -5
After reviewing this episode, I'm even more happy that the show took a very subtle approach to Deakins' departure. It simply fits the show better, IMHO, and the character.
On my first viewing, I was greatly impressed by Jamey Sheridan's performance. Very understated, and very moving. On a second viewing, I was also impressed by Mr. D'Onofrio's work. When the email first appeared, he was able to suggest that Goren knew what it meant and its possible implications. I believe that's why Goren's reaction was so muted--he feared the repercussions not necessarily for himself, but for Eames and Deakins. While Goren doesn't go into hysterics when Deakins tells him about the resignation, it's also clear that Goren is deeply moved and hurt--not by Deakins' giving up, but by the loss of someone he's come to respect. And while Goren isn't completely part of the NYPD, he's obviously loyal to it, and I believe he's also hurt that anyone in that organization would protect a Frank Adair.
In a fair world, Mr. Sheridan, Mr. D'Onofrio, and Ms. Erbe would at least be considered for Emmys, but it won't happen. Subtlety and grace and intelligence are rare occurances in this world and seldom recognized.
Patcat
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Post by caseyswife on Jun 2, 2006 10:54:57 GMT -5
In a fair world, Mr. Sheridan, Mr. D'Onofrio, and Ms. Erbe would at least be considered for Emmys, but it won't happen. Subtlety and grace and intelligence are rare occurances in this world and seldom recognized. Patcat Preach, Sister, Preach!!caseyswife
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Post by Patcat on Dec 9, 2010 9:44:14 GMT -5
Bump for EOTW
Patcat
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