Post by SarahIvy on Jun 8, 2007 14:27:25 GMT -5
This is one of my alltime favorite episodes, greatly due to how incredibly uneasy and uncomfortable it makes me. I think it's really one of the most profound explorations of "intent" they've done.
I'd answer Patcat's questions specifically, but think I'd be repeating a lot of what other people have already so eloquently expressed.
But I love the grey of this episode. There's just no black and white for Goren, and it's part of why I enjoy the character so much, and I think it's one of his finest attributes. It plays a huge part in his constant search for the truth.
Tagman's crimes are utterly horrific. Who WANTS to see the grey of his actions? Who wants to get in his head and try and understand him? It's much easier to view his crimes in black and white and only concentrate on justice for the victims.
Eames, Deakins and Carver all view him black and white. I'm not knocking them (well, I'm knocking Carver a little, because I think he's an asshat in this episode), it's normal and I think sometimes healthy to not let yourself go too far, to have boundaries for your own mental health.
I see Eames as frustrated and baffled more than outright angry. I think this is a case where the crime goes beyond her normal limit for tolerating (and generally appreciating) Goren's methods, the shock and disgust at what Tagman did to those women is blinding in its horror. As she says to him, "Of all the people..."
I think Goren's willingness to go to that dark place and come to understand Tagman on a level most people would have NO interest whatsoever in exploring is a testament to his honesty and bravery. He really puts himself on the line in this episode, with his partner, his boss and Carver...but also personally, because I think such deep dark explorations take a harsh toll on him (which I think we're shown very clearly throughout Season 4).
I think ultimately both Deakins and Eames recognize that, but Carver perhaps not so much (particularly the "zing" of his snide snide request that Goren use one of his tricks).
The hair? The hair itself is fine, but the greasy product? Not so much. I think he was doing the Welles short and the hair people on the CI set just had no idea what on earth to do with it....so they pomaded it to death. (I'm pretty sure there are a couple of stills over at The Reel, in costume for Welles, with The Hair.)
I'd answer Patcat's questions specifically, but think I'd be repeating a lot of what other people have already so eloquently expressed.
But I love the grey of this episode. There's just no black and white for Goren, and it's part of why I enjoy the character so much, and I think it's one of his finest attributes. It plays a huge part in his constant search for the truth.
Tagman's crimes are utterly horrific. Who WANTS to see the grey of his actions? Who wants to get in his head and try and understand him? It's much easier to view his crimes in black and white and only concentrate on justice for the victims.
Eames, Deakins and Carver all view him black and white. I'm not knocking them (well, I'm knocking Carver a little, because I think he's an asshat in this episode), it's normal and I think sometimes healthy to not let yourself go too far, to have boundaries for your own mental health.
I see Eames as frustrated and baffled more than outright angry. I think this is a case where the crime goes beyond her normal limit for tolerating (and generally appreciating) Goren's methods, the shock and disgust at what Tagman did to those women is blinding in its horror. As she says to him, "Of all the people..."
I think Goren's willingness to go to that dark place and come to understand Tagman on a level most people would have NO interest whatsoever in exploring is a testament to his honesty and bravery. He really puts himself on the line in this episode, with his partner, his boss and Carver...but also personally, because I think such deep dark explorations take a harsh toll on him (which I think we're shown very clearly throughout Season 4).
I think ultimately both Deakins and Eames recognize that, but Carver perhaps not so much (particularly the "zing" of his snide snide request that Goren use one of his tricks).
The hair? The hair itself is fine, but the greasy product? Not so much. I think he was doing the Welles short and the hair people on the CI set just had no idea what on earth to do with it....so they pomaded it to death. (I'm pretty sure there are a couple of stills over at The Reel, in costume for Welles, with The Hair.)