Post by musicwench on Oct 20, 2007 14:54:29 GMT -5
LOL Nice catch Donna!
All right, having put aside my dislike for the ending - I still think Leslie's final rant was contrived and put there just to give Goren and Eames an excuse for their final conversation - I'll add another 2 cents.
There were such obvious parallels to Goren and to Goren and Eames in this one it did make for interesting viewing on that level. Goren and the asthmatic FDA man are the ones who are searching for the truth no matter what. They are the "non-team players." The ones who get ostracized and ridiculed by the "loyal" team players. His apartment even resembled something I would think Goren's apartment would look like. Books and more books with no television set, etc. Both men seem to be very lonely and both were played by Leslie, who played not only the two of them but Marty, her boss as well.
Then there's the whole Leslie and Marty dynamic vs. the Goren and Eames dynamic which leads to the loyalty vs. integrity and doing what's right. Leslie isn't loyal. She undermines Marty and frames him for murder to further her own career. Marty is loyal but he's part of the 'buddy boy' system. Contrast that to Goren and Eames. Eames is loyal and supports Goren despite having her own doubts from time to time. But she isn't supporting someone who is part of the 'buddy boy' system, which Eames herself loathes. Goren is the one who relentlessly searches for the truth and does the right thing. Not the popular thing or the thing that would make his life much easier.
Loyalty for the sake of loyalty is not noble. Being a team player isn't noble. Standing up for the truth is noble but it certainly isn't the easy path.
So there was a lot to digest in this episode and it wasn't horrible. My main complaints are the use of another Nelda/Nicole type of character and that contrived rant at the end of the episode that led to that comment that stopped many people in their tracks apparently.
I do hope my interpretation of Eames' statement is wrong and those with a more positive spin on it are right. It would be more in character of her to be saying 'It's too late to worry about what my association with you might do because I've already made my choice to stay with you.'
The whole Goren/Eames dynamic is incredibly complicated and yet so simple. They are two individuals who seem to compliment each other and make each other 'better.' I think while much is made of how much Eames helps keep Goren grounded and runs interference for him with the captain and others, Goren helps keep Eames' moral compass pointed true north. Not that she's immoral or that she doesn't do the right thing but she is more susceptible to the 'tow the line' mentality considering her background. While she loathes the 'buddy boy' system she might not always recognize when she's caught up in it - as in Amends with the case of her husband's murder. In the end she recognizes that Goren is right and they must follow through no matter how painful and difficult following that path might be.
I don't want their relationship to be broken and I don't like the implication of what a 'wedge' between the two might mean. It bothers me because as much as a 'romance' would be incredibly soapy so would a long-standing rift.
Okay, that was more like 2 hundred dollars instead of 2 cents. LOL Can't help it, the show makes me think.
All right, having put aside my dislike for the ending - I still think Leslie's final rant was contrived and put there just to give Goren and Eames an excuse for their final conversation - I'll add another 2 cents.
There were such obvious parallels to Goren and to Goren and Eames in this one it did make for interesting viewing on that level. Goren and the asthmatic FDA man are the ones who are searching for the truth no matter what. They are the "non-team players." The ones who get ostracized and ridiculed by the "loyal" team players. His apartment even resembled something I would think Goren's apartment would look like. Books and more books with no television set, etc. Both men seem to be very lonely and both were played by Leslie, who played not only the two of them but Marty, her boss as well.
Then there's the whole Leslie and Marty dynamic vs. the Goren and Eames dynamic which leads to the loyalty vs. integrity and doing what's right. Leslie isn't loyal. She undermines Marty and frames him for murder to further her own career. Marty is loyal but he's part of the 'buddy boy' system. Contrast that to Goren and Eames. Eames is loyal and supports Goren despite having her own doubts from time to time. But she isn't supporting someone who is part of the 'buddy boy' system, which Eames herself loathes. Goren is the one who relentlessly searches for the truth and does the right thing. Not the popular thing or the thing that would make his life much easier.
Loyalty for the sake of loyalty is not noble. Being a team player isn't noble. Standing up for the truth is noble but it certainly isn't the easy path.
So there was a lot to digest in this episode and it wasn't horrible. My main complaints are the use of another Nelda/Nicole type of character and that contrived rant at the end of the episode that led to that comment that stopped many people in their tracks apparently.
I do hope my interpretation of Eames' statement is wrong and those with a more positive spin on it are right. It would be more in character of her to be saying 'It's too late to worry about what my association with you might do because I've already made my choice to stay with you.'
The whole Goren/Eames dynamic is incredibly complicated and yet so simple. They are two individuals who seem to compliment each other and make each other 'better.' I think while much is made of how much Eames helps keep Goren grounded and runs interference for him with the captain and others, Goren helps keep Eames' moral compass pointed true north. Not that she's immoral or that she doesn't do the right thing but she is more susceptible to the 'tow the line' mentality considering her background. While she loathes the 'buddy boy' system she might not always recognize when she's caught up in it - as in Amends with the case of her husband's murder. In the end she recognizes that Goren is right and they must follow through no matter how painful and difficult following that path might be.
I don't want their relationship to be broken and I don't like the implication of what a 'wedge' between the two might mean. It bothers me because as much as a 'romance' would be incredibly soapy so would a long-standing rift.
Okay, that was more like 2 hundred dollars instead of 2 cents. LOL Can't help it, the show makes me think.