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Post by Metella on Dec 2, 2007 8:03:00 GMT -5
nwchimom - yah, that's what I felt, Logan Logan would never have been rude TO his partner or captain - he would have been loud arguing his side, but would not have questioned them or their motives. Falacci is just pushy and closed to other's ways and thoughts when it comes to her job. Off the "scent" of her job; she seems ok.
I am assuming that the writers wanted her to come off this way.
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Post by maherjunkie on Dec 2, 2007 13:19:31 GMT -5
Like he was on auto pilot. He's losing his edge, his snark, and it's getting worst as the season progresses. I don't see him as maturing as more like slowly fading. That scene in the strip club was telling. I hope when Wheeler returns, she knocks some sense into him. And I think he needs someone to share his feelings with. Now, more than ever, he & Goren should go out for a drink together. Wouldn't mind that! But what did you mean by scene in strip club?Did you think he was rather subdued?
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Post by maherjunkie on Dec 2, 2007 13:21:59 GMT -5
Guess I am the only one who was disappointed. I don't like sad endings, Just like Seeds, when the good guy or gal ends up being the bad guy. In Seeds, all the brother was trying to do was save his sick brother and ends up being the murderer, but the evil father doctor, gets away. In this one, everyone is lieing, and even the other rich kids are picking on the the poor kid who has a pro career ahead of him, and the father is in a wheelchair, his mom loves him soooo much, and she ends up being the murderer. At the end of the show, I end up feeling sad. Poor Logan gets all the feel bad shows. Now the Greedy boyfriend, the lieing girl, the bad DA, and his Social Climbing wife, all can go on with their lives and I know she murdered a girl, but now the mom is going to jail, who is gunna take care of the man in the wheelchair. What do you mean? Endgame, Amends, Smile, Depths,Blind Spot? don't know that I have a lot to say about this EP because I liked it thoroughly. Loved Logan's vulnerability when he showed her the clipping; like he should have had pictures of a family in there instead. Tight writing. Logan showed restraint with the coach and the lawyer, a matured man still sexy inside out. Loved the "Character building" comment, you know Logan might be a good father if given the chance. But he still got feisty with Omar in the squad room, the old Logan coming out, and on the job, loved the "You must be old school", and following smile. Perri Gilpin was a surprise, you still had empathy for her. Wouldn't mind seeing some of these characters again. Only Fallachi continues to marginally annoy; she doesn't know when she is just being advised, not "double teamed"; the woman is as bombastic as Freddie Mercury without the talent. Kinda funny to hear Logan talk about "finesse"!
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Post by ragincajun on Dec 2, 2007 13:46:48 GMT -5
maherjunkie
I don't like when the good guy ends up bad, The Tigress protecting her cub.(offense) The Brother, just trying to save his brother, out of anger, just reached for the cube and struck out( seeds) I guess I miss carver, telling us, what will happen, or what the plea agreement was, I worry about what happened next, to these people who before never did anything wrong.
Endgame- No innocent person was turned to criminal. Amends- The boy was hanging with gansters when he was a child. Smile-The woman made her choices Depths-so did he, he made concious choices. Blind spot- she was warped by her father, I think she ended up in a mental ward.
I hope this explains what I meant better. Not saying I didn't like the episode, just those endings leave me wanting more. I need closure.
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Post by maherjunkie on Dec 2, 2007 13:54:42 GMT -5
I see your point, I just thought the heavier eps, the ones Goethe or Herman Hesse could have written.
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Post by trisha on Dec 2, 2007 16:17:32 GMT -5
I like closure, too, but I like to see them hang, even the ones that had a less selfish reason for doing it. Sorry. I'm a bit heartless like that. I like that CI explores these more tragic cases from time to time, but it does irk me when they make the murderer so sympathetic that you lose focus of the victim. I'm glad that didn't happen here, and more than that, the KILLER was crying for her victim. Kisses to the writers from this happy fan
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Post by effie on Dec 14, 2007 9:10:32 GMT -5
Hey gang... I put something together watching the marathon yesterday... so in case it was bugging anyone else...
Traci's fiance looked SO familiar and now I know why. He was played by the actor Peter Kim who we all know well... as Parker from "Collective." That we didn't recognize him directly says something about him as an actor! Good job!
in this case IMDB is a help... :0)
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Post by Penn O'Hara on Jan 5, 2008 6:42:21 GMT -5
My jaw totally dropped when Logan just took the belligerence of the coach on the football field and walked off without an argument. You can "pick your battles", sure, but he’s letting a jock coach tell him when and where he should do his job??? I don’t think so.
I’m getting a little tired of the gratuitous sex on LOCI, latter seasons — the doctors thumping against the wall of the office…the buxom Dominican and her skimpy clothing— and now they’re using sport (football fans) to bring in the viewers?
The strip club scene with Logan being tempted by the manager’s offer? A bit forced and predictable, but it made me think of “Exiled” when Logan went back to the Catwalk and seemed so utterly at home there then. This time it seemed as if he thought it was all past him now and although he’d like to accept, he knew he couldn’t or shouldn’t … he was wistful at the idea of it. And Falacci was ready to rain on his parade. Silvera didn’t. ::grin:: Poor Logan.
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Post by trisha on Jan 5, 2008 13:07:41 GMT -5
I agree, Penn. Logan has certainly "grown up" but you can see the restrained desire in him to act reflexively. It brings another layer to the character and the show that I'm really loving. I hope that it won't be exploited the way Goren's shit has been, though. I'm only watching this show for the Logan eps these days, and that kind of thing will chase me off the show completely.
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Post by diablodeblanco on Jan 5, 2008 15:11:29 GMT -5
I agree, Penn. Logan has certainly "grown up" but you can see the restrained desire in him to act reflexively. It brings another layer to the character and the show that I'm really loving. I hope that it won't be exploited the way Goren's shit has been, though. I'm only watching this show for the Logan eps these days, and that kind of thing will chase me off the show completely. Maybe Logan's stint on Staten Island was one of those life lessons that stick the rest of your life. Maybe he realizes thinking before acting has it's benefits.
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Post by trisha on Jan 6, 2008 11:03:59 GMT -5
Yep, that's exactly it, diablo. He even showed Falacci the clipping that he carries around. Now, that part was something I found uncharacteristic for Mike unless he only recently started carrying it around to remind him so he doesn't screw up his gig with MCS.
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Post by diablodeblanco on Jan 6, 2008 11:23:29 GMT -5
Yep, that's exactly it, diablo. He even showed Falacci the clipping that he carries around. Now, that part was something I found uncharacteristic for Mike unless he only recently started carrying it around to remind him so he doesn't screw up his gig with MCS. It's as if he knows he has this second chance at MC and in the event he is close to a relapse to old Mikey he has that clipping to remind him of of how it went all bad.
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Post by Cassie on Jan 6, 2008 14:43:36 GMT -5
When Logan first came to Major Case, he was very insecure in his position, because of the Staten Island incident. He is no longer that insecure man.
There is a scene, not sure what episode, one of Logan's earlier shows, Where Deakin's told him not to worry about Staten Island, and the smile on Deakin's face was as if he was thinking, "you've got balls Logan, you stand up for what you believe in, thats why I hired you".I got the impression that Deakin's admired him for punching the congressman. Maybe Logan now carries the article as a reminder to himself, that sometimes bad things turn into good things.
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Post by tjara on Apr 23, 2009 3:32:27 GMT -5
Ok, parting with the "Playing Dead" thread and bringing up this one.
Honestly, I don't have too much to say about this episode. The story didn't grab me that much, mostly because we shifted focus so much. There were so many suspects, but the one person that did it was never one of them. For me, that is not CI. In CI, we usually have to know who did it or at least we need to have hints on who could've done it. And then we figure out why.
I really don't like the clothes that they put Alicia Witt in. They make her seem soooooooooooooo much younger!! Actually too young to be a cop and a mom of 3 kids. Dress her in a nice blouse and dress suit pants - she looks five years older!
The more enjoyable part of this ep was the Logan/Falacci/Ross interaction. She's a hothead, and I like that. Not only can Logan give his "been there, done that" act, it also makes the interaction between him and Falacci much more interesting. I always find that's lacking with Wheeler, though I hope Season 8 might bringt about a change. I also do like how Ross puts her in his place - quietly, firmly,...
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Post by maherjunkie on Apr 28, 2009 21:20:24 GMT -5
I liked the fact that for once you didn't know until the end. Fallaci was like a chainsaw with red pubes, but sometimes I miss her.
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