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Post by ragincajun on May 25, 2008 18:29:39 GMT -5
Patcat, you were irked by the "Hollywood actor" thing? What about what she said about Bill Murray? Country bumpkin from the Midwest...honey, you're shacking up with your own cousin who happens to be your baby's daddy. Well being from the South, people do sometimes Marry 3rd or 4th cousins, but from what I have heard she is with her first cousin, which I think is a little too close in the genetic pool. Just my Opinion. |
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Post by deathroe on May 25, 2008 19:18:20 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that marrying one's first cousin is legal in Italy. I don't think we need to judge Ms. Scacchi on that. However, her comments on Bill Murray were in poor taste and suggest some other sort of rejection.
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Post by diablodeblanco on May 25, 2008 21:12:57 GMT -5
I got the feeling after reading the interview that Ms. Scacchi felt pressured to give Bill Murray her number. Whether she truly was is another matter. Also her having a party of an odd assortment of friends was not a coincidence (IMO). I think it was a way to keep Mr. Murray, should he attend, at arm's length. Or just to make him feel out of place. I've never read anything but nice things about Bill Murray. But one never knows.....
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Post by maherjunkie on May 25, 2008 21:36:38 GMT -5
It is still creepy! I don't know if the Italians are THAT family-oriented.
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Post by sabry on May 26, 2008 2:37:07 GMT -5
to tell the truth I am still amazed that she
was married to a cousin,we is not legal to marry a cousin of First Instance, I do not know where she is not married but I think it is in Italy......frankly marry a cousin is a strange situation that often does not feel
I from his interview, I heard much resentment and reports must not be easy, if it said in interview.....but the interaction of torque are always complex
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Post by det1stgrade on May 26, 2008 9:13:53 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I think he is back to smoking..maybe to help him lose weight. Anyway, the pix was taken during a recently filming in Brooklyn. Bobby's still on suspension after the Tates' incident and goes undercover to nab some drug dealers (to prove he's still 'worthy' of being a cop. I guess that's why he's scruffy looking...but I did notice the no socks w/ the Goren shoes. There's a u-tube video of this filming
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Post by deathroe on May 26, 2008 14:29:25 GMT -5
Revision via googling (not to beat a dead horse) suggests that this is legal in about half of US states as well as in the UK. I also found that it is legal in Italy (and likely other places too) with a Papal dispensation. Which does not make it common or desirable. Sabry, my apologies if I'm getting this totally mixed up. Didn't mean to be a smart*ss. 1/2 of my family comes from different small towns in that part of the world, skip back almost 100 years, and I'm sure based on the names and the health issues that there was intermarriage of some sort. At the risk of turning these boards into livejournal's ohnotheydidn't--where I first saw this story--why bring up that random anecdote all those years later. Did *he* reject *her*--or what? ... On a possibly more constructive note: det1stgrade, would you mind linking to the Youtube footage? My searches aren't finding it. And does anyone have the new S7 promos? I've heard they're really dramatic!  |
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Post by maherjunkie on May 26, 2008 20:47:19 GMT -5
It's current as she mentions their 16-yr old daughter. Is it as prevalent in the Southern states as some assume?
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Post by nwchimom on May 26, 2008 23:01:12 GMT -5
Deathroe, this might be what det1stgrade was referring to (?): www.youtube.com/watch?v=adaY-GQrfncAs for your question about the new promos, I only have the three "returning in June" promos. Check your PM for a link. Are you looking for the actual new episode promo? The site I use doesn't have it up yet. |
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Post by sabry on May 27, 2008 3:20:59 GMT -5
the papal dispensation is very difficult to obtain,
being the second marriage I doubt that it is married to a Catholic rite.....not
know if his is the case but the Italian law for
Civil marriage prohibits marriages with direct line
I must say that Vincent very good without beard, I would say that in excellent physical shape
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Post by diablodeblanco on May 27, 2008 12:10:02 GMT -5
It's current as she mentions their 16-yr old daughter. Is it as prevalent in the Southern states as some assume? I think in past centuries in this country there wasn't the population that there is now. Travel between areas was difficult and time consuming. Finding a spouse was looking locally. And also marrying someone of your own financial, religious and social status was important. If you go back far enough in someone's family tree you could probably find a union of cousins. My father's ancestors came to this country in the 1600s and there are a couple of examples (that I know of) of cousins marrying cousins. I believe that genetically speaking an occasional cousin to cousin union is not a problem. It is when you have generation after generation of inbreeding that the recessive abnormalities/surprises pop up. People tend to think of the isolated groups in West Virginia (Deliverance) or such that have the inbreeding problems but if you look at isolated groups of humans around the world you will find this. If you look at the pedigrees of show dogs you will find examples of linebreeding.....rarely inbreeding. It is how you "set" type. Linebred dogs tend to be genetically dominant in what they produce. As to the legality or ethics of cousin marrying cousin, I guess it depends on where you are. |
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Post by diablodeblanco on May 27, 2008 12:15:44 GMT -5
the papal dispensation is very difficult to obtain, being the second marriage I doubt that it is married to a Catholic rite.....not know if his is the case but the Italian law for Civil marriage prohibits marriages with direct line I must say that Vincent very good without beard, I would say that in excellent physical shape I don't think VDO was married to her. The child was conceived out of wedlock so I don't know if that would have any effect on the religious laws. |
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Post by noc on May 27, 2008 19:28:09 GMT -5
I appreciated reading the article, but I had the same thought of why bring up very old, very "Hollywood gossipy" stories. It seemed almost incendiary.
In terms of marrying first cousins, I agree with Diablodeblanco about it was historically common. I don't know of any cases for the Southern (Blue Ridge Mountain) side of the family.
A study in Canada has a recent program (begun May 2008 in Toronto) of testing its Jewish population for certain hereditary mutations for free -whereas the test is slightly under $1,000 here. The article has some interesting facts about genetic mutations within the Eastern European Jewish population.
My great-grandparents were first cousins, and I was told it was common for Jews in Russia and other countries in the late 1880s and early 1900s due to the small Jewish communities in Russia and Poland. I was told by my grandfather that a marriage to a 1st cousin was seen as the lesser evil of the risk of the arranged marriage, and the boy had often been away. He wasn't sure if there was the understanding of the genetic risk when the practice was common in the "old world".
I don't have an issue with the marriage: it's just my understanding that there can be health issues for the children. But, that may be my ignorance. Both of my parents are only children, but does SEEM creepy if you grew up as close as a brother or sister.
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Post by sabry on May 28, 2008 2:26:35 GMT -5
here too marriages are legal direct Nos to avoid genetic diseases, are personal choices but feel that a person marries a cousin is not in the rule is an extraordinary situation
the religious laws have no weight if you do not you ever been married previously ... but I believed that they were separated, Mrs Greta Scacchi in italy not much talk
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Post by deathroe on Jun 4, 2008 23:15:59 GMT -5
This study about marrying first cousins was referenced on Leno tonight. Maybe Jay reads these boards.
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