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Post by KATIE on Nov 12, 2004 2:30:46 GMT -5
Your guy sounds like a nice person, never heard of that board but sounds good. I dont think or I hope there Isnt anybody so nasty on the LOCI set, Im sure Mr Wolf would seek them out and sack their sorry A--. love Katie
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Post by romulanavatra3 on Nov 12, 2004 2:37:05 GMT -5
hey all i have somking do some major damgage to one system but i can personally vouch for the dangers of to much stress, if you are extremly stressed your body tends to increase in tempreture thus you become dehyradted quite quickly and if you dont have enough to drink you may very faint or collapse. trust me i know from my days in high school. now as for this mallicous rumor i doubt it is true for instacne remmber all of the speculation during the period that kathryn was preganant and during her mertantity leave. it is more than likely a whole lot thin air that some very charming indvidual decided to print in an effort to critise vicnet and criminal intent. reagrds all rom.
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Post by Metella on Nov 12, 2004 10:35:51 GMT -5
I'm hoping Mr. D'Onofrio is back & healthy soon.
Observer, I think (putting words in Trisha's mouth) that she is saying that smoking connected to strenuous physical work can put a body out of breath & out of breath can lead to light-headed & fainting. That's it - no big pointing towards it HAD to be smoking.
At any rate, my mind was speculating - the first few episodes of the season, with the new hair & it seemed pale faced & a little more weight - that Mr. D'Onofrio was going through some changed like Mr. Urich (sp?) who had cancer. I have since changed my mind, as the changes are not the same. NOW that is some wild gossip with NOT one scrape of founding evidence; all springing from my mind.
And with that useless bit of drivel - I think I have gone too far into the personal and need to step on back off.
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Post by Sirenna on Nov 12, 2004 12:47:43 GMT -5
Poor Vincent!
I hope he is better soon. I believe he might have fainted due to a culmination of everything people have mentioned: stress, long hours, ciggies, strenuous shoots. I don't believe he's hard to work with at all. I do believe he knows what makes good movies/film and is not shy about saying so but in a way that allows the rest of the creative team to work without getting caught up in personal politics. His body of work is so extensive and so consistently good, his impact is obvious on the final product.
Vincent: It won't be easy but nico patches help and your family will love and support you kicking the cigs. Get well soon!
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Post by Enthralled on Nov 12, 2004 14:01:34 GMT -5
For a guy that is loath to be in the press, this whole situation must be particulary distasteful for Vincent. It must have been a slow gossip day over at the Post for them to jump all over him - of all people - the fistfight and flyer thing tipped me over. Ridiculous. Guess he is was still in the hospital as of yesterday - hope they discover the problem and he is well on his way to a speedy recovery. If you're reading this Vincent - get better and listen to your doctors - enjoy some music and play with your kids - life's too short to get totally bummed at 45
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Post by Observer2 on Nov 12, 2004 15:11:32 GMT -5
Fistfights? Yeah, right. Ever notice how he threw that punch at the bulletin board in Person of Interest? Fast and hard – and even though the target was high he automatically lowered his center of balance and used his whole body to power the swing. If he ever started throwing punches at people in earnest, we’d be reading about *other* people in the hospital, not him! (I really hope he pulled that punch more than it looked like he did – that’s a good way to break a knuckle.)
Metella, you’ve always had respect for the privacy of his personal life – you’ve been more careful about that than most people. But when someone touches us deeply, we can’t help worrying about them. That’s natural.
And it does worry me that he wasn’t released after a few hours. Rom’s suggestion of dehydration might be a reason. Or they may just be being careful, running tests. But it’s hard not to worry about the possibility of something more serious.
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Post by janetcatbird on Nov 12, 2004 15:45:25 GMT -5
Or maybe he just didn't want to face the reporters and paparazzi as he emerged from the hospital! Although I'm curious as to the scene--climbing?--I figure we'll know in time. I certainly hope he is doing well, but, like Metella, I generally prefer to not go into private lives. All the best to D'Onofrio.
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Post by Observer2 on Nov 12, 2004 21:21:44 GMT -5
Someone at vincentdonofriofans.com posted this. They didn’t give the link, so I don’t know where it’s from, but the AP date is yesterday, not today. So as of yesterday, he was still in the hospital for tests. No word yet on whether he’s gone home.
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Friday, November 12, 2004 Still In the hospital ~ for tests ASSOCIATED PRESS - Thursday, November 11, 2004
ACTOR FAINTS ON LAW AND ORDER SET Actor Vincent D'Onofrio is recovering after fainting on the set of the hit TV show "Law & Order: Criminal Intent." The star reportedly collapsed Wednesday during a rehearsal for the program, and was taken to a nearby hospital for tests.
The 45-year-old is still in the hospital but he's expected to return to the set for shooting next week.
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Post by romulanavatra3 on Nov 12, 2004 22:17:58 GMT -5
observer i agree that it there is always the possiblity of something more serious and hsopitols often keep you as long as possible if they want to run extra tests. mind you if it is dehydration it is possible that are giving him exta fluid so as to avoid a simlliar incident and this process can take ages depending on the regulations of the hospital and the way they handle the use of saline drips. as for the article i doubt if he was getting to fistfights with other people he would still have a job. it is utterly riduclous. reagrds rom.
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Post by OintmentFly on Nov 13, 2004 0:08:51 GMT -5
An observation: If Page Six had reported Vincent's fainting spell and the "insider" had reported to the paper that it was due to the fact that he overextends himself and spends all his time during shooting breaks handing out food to the poor and gave in to exhaustion, I believe most people here would've been more than willing to believe the story and would be singing his praises.
These posts seem very naive. Nobody here knows Vincent or knows what his personal failings might be. We know his public persona and the characters he's played. This is not to say that he's not a wonderful actor. I love the show, but I'm not blind to the fact that D'Onofrio is a complex human being, as we are all, and that he has faults, as we all do. Like everyone else here, I wish him good health and a speedy recovery.
Vincent is home from the hospital and will return to the set on Tuesday. If his behavior doesn't improve, he will be fired.
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Post by LOCIfan on Nov 13, 2004 0:18:25 GMT -5
Weighing in late here. I'm offline for a few days and look what I miss!
Poor Vincent. I hope he's ok.
OintmentFly, as much as I hate to admit it, you make a valid point. Personally, I don't want to believe the story, so I'm not going to. But, you're right -- if the story had been gossipy, but positive, I'd likely have believed it.
By the way, do you have a link re: his release from the hospital and return to work and the stuff about him being fired if he doesn't shape up?
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Post by Observer2 on Nov 13, 2004 2:05:17 GMT -5
I’m not surprised by OintmentFly – anyone who chooses that kind of name has an investment in being the oppositional voice. But I’m surprised at you, LOCIfan. If someone claimed D’Onofrio “spends all his time during shooting breaks handing out food to the poor” you wouldn’t take it seriously, and neither would most of the people on the board. His level of focus on the set is too well established by former and current co-workers. We’d probably figure it was just one of the Vixens getting a bit carried away.
OintmentFly, you believe the stuff in the Page 6 article, and you call us naive?
If you don’t care about the obvious inaccuracies that Nick5oh pointed out, there’s always the charming little bit about the fistfights. D’Onofrio is 6’4”, around 220 lb, looks like he lifts weights, and has good form when he throws a punch. How is it that Page 6 has managed to miss out on all those bruised and injured people he’s been getting into fistfights with?
Do you have any idea how transparent those lies are?
D’Onofrio tells someone in line at Verizon that he’ll pay for their broken phone if they will just shut up, and the whole world knows about it the next day; and you expect us to believe he’s been getting into fistfights and no one – NO ONE – has heard about it? And you’re calling us naive?
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Post by trisha on Nov 13, 2004 8:34:59 GMT -5
Like I wrote before, page six has printed seriously inflated gossip before. Not to forget that at times they have been right, but just think for a minute how many times they have been totally wrong. And, as a gossip page, they don't take any responsibility for spreading lies and malicious gossip, they just smile and say, "That's just what we heard."
I understand that for true journalistic integrity, some sources have to remain unnamed, but for things like this, I need the name of the source to believe even a single word of it. If the things that this person said were true, would they get fired for talking about them? I don't think so. So, this person either remains unnamed because they are not a real inside source, or they are lying through their teeth.
And as nick has pointed out the inaccuracies that a true insider would know, it seems very plausible that this "insider" is just a vicious liar.
I don't think D'Onofrio is perfect, and I would just as likely not to trust page six if what they wrote was positive. But, if it were positive, would they print it?
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Post by Enthralled on Nov 13, 2004 9:27:49 GMT -5
Flyintheointment raises a point that I have had rolling around in the back of my mind - there will never be anyway I will know what Vincent is like personally - because I enjoy his work, I have taken this odd turn and become interested in the life of a complete stranger. What if he is a jerk - what impact does that have on my life? So it may be time to get back to the reality of my mundane little life and take my son to basketball, pick my husband up at the airport and fly to Miami next week on a business trip - all of which suits me just fine. I'm sure that Vincent has his ups and downs like all of us, I hope he hasn't gone off the deep end a work because he's a good actor and LOCI is about the only show on tv worth watch. So I'll keep watching, enjoy his acting while I can and hope he feels better and takes care of himself. Maybe I'll even try to figure out the storyline they will use if he does get fired on Tuesday...
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Post by amnesic on Nov 13, 2004 13:25:38 GMT -5
Trisha, I used to work as a life coach, with a focus on holistic lifestyles. My research and my experience with clients both taught me that some people use smoking as an important stress management tool. For some smokers it’s one of only two things in their lives that trigger substantial levels of relaxation – and the other one isn’t something they can do in public. In my experience, smokers who have a lot of stress and don’t have a good repertoire of effective stress management techniques rarely succeed at quitting smoking on a long-term basis. If they manage to quit for a while, they sometimes have such an increase in stress-related symptoms that they become determined to go back to smoking and never to quit again. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying smoking is a good thing. I’m just saying that quitting isn’t always just a matter of becoming health conscious or having enough will power. i came across something similar when i was an undergrad at uni. one of my lecturers told us of some research conducted on working class mothers who smoked. the researchers found that the mothers who smoked suffered from significantly less feelings of stress and fewer psycho-somatic symptoms than the non-smoking mothers. one explanation was that their children knew that when their mothers went outside for a cigarette that it was "her time" and that they should leave her in peace. i just wish that when people talk about smoking being bad for the smoker's health that they would remember to level the same argument at those who drink.
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