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Post by tina70 on Apr 3, 2007 9:34:54 GMT -5
I also wish that whoever owns the rights to Guy and Naked Tango would see how much they are going for and how many bids they get and realize its time to release them on dvd. Ted Turner owns the rights to both movies. You can vote to have them released to DVD by following the links below (or if they don't work, go to www.tcm.com, search the movie by title and then follow the links) Guy www.tcmdb.com/title/title.jsp?stid=443209Naked Tango www.tcmdb.com/title/title.jsp?stid=443634
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Post by ragincajun on Apr 3, 2007 9:54:27 GMT -5
Thanks Tina.
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Post by DonnaJo on Apr 3, 2007 17:23:35 GMT -5
Tina, do you know if Ted Turner owns the Sundance channel? Is that why Guy is shown on that station from time to time?
If so, why not show Naked Tango? The nudity & sexual scenes are minimal, no worst than Guy's.
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Post by vdofan1 on Apr 3, 2007 17:42:05 GMT -5
Tina, do you know if Ted Turner owns the Sundance channel? Is that why Guy is shown on that station from time to time? If so, why not show Naked Tango? The nudity & sexual scenes are minimal, no worst than Guy's. I just read a short little article the other day that mentioned what the Sundance channel is.... (What timing, huh?) LOL!! "The skinny: Launched in 1996, the independent-minded cabler is a venture of NBC Universal, CBS and Robert Redford." www.variety.com/article/VR1117962214.html?categoryid=1236&cs=1&nid=2562
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Post by gibbsfandan on Apr 3, 2007 18:01:28 GMT -5
Donna, Tessa and I watched the alternate ending on The Reel, and agree with you that it's much better than the American version. As to why the ending was changed, the following could be some reasons: 1) Americans don't like to watch bloody-mouth kissing except in "Die Hard"-type movies or on the Jerry Springer show. 2) The European ending was too artistic. That final shot — Alba looks like a Rolls Royce hood ornament. (On a related note, I really did hear this in the Metropolitan Museum of Art, coming from a woman whose husband was looking at a Degas painting: "What's the big deal, Harry? It's just a picture of a naked woman drying off her foot with a towel. And they call that art." LMAO!) 3) American women thought that all Cholo deserved was a kick in the teeth and a brutal death after, well, certain things he did to Alba. All to be taken with a liberal grain of salt. And thanks again for letting me know where to find that. We really did enjoy it.
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Post by Patcat on Apr 4, 2007 9:28:05 GMT -5
From the description of the American ending, I'm glad I have the European version.
I don't hate Cholo--I hate the things he does, but I have some understanding of why he does them, which seems to be more than the character has.
I was in the Indianapolis Museum of Art with my then nine-year-old friend Zach. We came to an installation that consisted of a string pulled across a white room. Zach studied it for a moment and commented, "Well, that's stupid." Some other people viewing it nearly collapsed in hysterical laughter. On the other hand, there was another installation of a pyramid of about 20 or so television with various tapes running over and over on them. Zach liked this. "It's about too much information," he said. "And we have too much stuff."
Patcat
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Post by gibbsfandan on Apr 4, 2007 13:09:42 GMT -5
I was in the Indianapolis Museum of Art with my then nine-year-old friend Zach. We came to an installation that consisted of a string pulled across a white room. Zach studied it for a moment and commented, "Well, that's stupid." Some other people viewing it nearly collapsed in hysterical laughter. It's embarrassing how long I had to think about that. Dan (who, unlike Robby in "Bright Boy," apparently has problems thinking about things with his right brain)
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Post by DonnaJo on Apr 4, 2007 16:53:25 GMT -5
Dan, funny you mention the bloody kiss. That grossed me out. Yet, I can sit & watch a horror movie where a psycho stabs someone in the gut & still munch on my popcorn. Maybe it has something to do with our culture's subconscious fear of HIV/AIDS? Kissing a bloody mouth sound like a possible (but rather improbable) means of transmission. Is that sexy in Europe? It's a shame. Cholo was such an unsympathetic character, except at the very end when he cried over Alba as she died in his arms. You felt his love for her, and the tragedy that it was all too little too late.
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Post by gibbsfandan on Apr 4, 2007 20:50:28 GMT -5
Dunno about the HIV angle. I think that, like you said about yourself, most people in our culture would be grossed out by the bloody kiss, but that it has to do primarily with the combination of tenderness/eroticism with violence, or anything that causes any substance to ooze out of the mouth. Drooling or oozing something out of the mouth seems to be pretty reliable for a "blecchh"-type reaction. Kissing such a mouth would be a double-blecchh. I'm going to speculate that a more European reaction to the bloody kiss (to whatever degree you can typify Europe) — or perhaps a more Spanish or Latin reaction — would be to focus on the tragedy and the drama as a fitting end to this bizarrely romantic relationship. To me, Cholo was still unsympathetic at the end. I thought his grief was mostly for himself, for what he lost. It seems like every major character in the movie is motivated by selfishness. Even Alba chose, out of impulsiveness and self-interest, to quit being Stephanie and escape a stifling marriage to the judge; and the list goes on. That was one strange world, that movie.
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