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Post by Patcat on Sept 9, 2008 10:20:31 GMT -5
Dragonsback--as I hope my post earlier this am indicates, I was clearly wrong in accusing these two fans of stalking. It's what I get for posting early on a Monday morning when I haven't had enough caffeine. I apologize to everyone concerned. I should be more considerate. After all, I rode for four hours and back in one day to see Jeremy Brett (the excellent Sherlock Holmes of about twenty years ago).
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Post by ragincajun on Sept 9, 2008 12:54:17 GMT -5
If I had the money, I would have gone, then I could have taken the hubby to the falls, so I could finally have shut him up about the time, I went without him.
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Post by maherjunkie on Sept 9, 2008 13:48:02 GMT -5
I don't think you were necessarily wrong. Vincent doesn't owe us a damn thing other than a good performance.
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Post by dragonsback on Sept 9, 2008 16:15:17 GMT -5
Gotcha, Patcat. We are in sync.I see from the time and date stamps that we must have posted within seconds of one another. In any case, I think you have touched upon a very interesting point. Do actors have (non-contractual) obligations to their fans, offstage and offscreen? Do they owe their fanbase anything? I suppose my answer would be a hedge. "Technically they don't owe anybody anything, BUT...."
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Post by eva on Sept 9, 2008 18:20:29 GMT -5
Do actors have (non-contractual) obligations to their fans, offstage and offscreen? That's indeed a good question. I would never visit a film festival just because an actor I like is going to be there. I visit film festivals, watch the movies I'm interested in and any appearances by actors/ directors/ whatever are a nice bonus and nothing more. Actors are human beings with family obligations, schedules and so on. They get sick, stressed ... . In short; there are a lot of good reasons to call off events like this. But even "serious actors" need their audience. Obligations? Well, not really. The only thing I expect from then is that they do their jobs and come up with good movies. I'm not dissappointed when they choose not to appear on public. But on the other hand, where would they be without fans?
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Post by Ladyheather on Sept 9, 2008 21:05:48 GMT -5
It is a double edged sword for an actor. They have a product that they want fans to see and maybe see again. Then fans want more and more.
They must find a balance. Actors have to promote their product and need fans. It is up to them to control their personal lives and keep it out of the public. When I hear an actor whine about all those fans bothering them, I have very little sympathy.
I do appreciate all that VDO does for fans. He seems to allow them to take pictures and chat with him at events. He does seem to understand that balance. I think it is because he appreciates people who appreciate his work and respect it.
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Post by Moonbeam on Sept 10, 2008 7:06:59 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I watched Kevin Zegers on an episode of 'House' last night. Thought it funny "Narrows" is being reviewed and out of the blue I see this name and I think, "That name sounds familiar."
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Post by annabelleleigh on Sept 10, 2008 9:33:33 GMT -5
Boldfaces and italics mine. AL P.S. "Adam Ressurected" premiers at TIFF tonight. P.P.S. I didn't put this in the Jeff Goldblum sub-board because I didn't think we needed more than one Toronto Film Festival thread. I'm sure the Mods will move it if necessary. Jeff Goldblum dazzles in Holocaust dramaBy Kirk Honeycutt The Hollywood ReporterSeptember 9, 2008 Excerpt: "...Paul Schrader's "Adam Resurrected" doesn't lack for ambition. Based on Yoram Kaniuk's highly imaginative though controversial Holocaust novel, the story has echoes of "Catch-22" crossed with "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." The madness of Holocaust survivors is here played mainly for dark comedy. The film's dazzling central performance in a mental institute finds Jeff Goldblum in the role of his career as a former German-Jewish circus clown and nightclub performer who still can't resist performing a magic trick or seducing a nurse. You might rub people the wrong way with this approach, but the challenge of finding the right tone for each scene -- in the clown's interaction with nurses and doctors dazzled by his undoubted brilliance; the flashbacks to his Berlin career and the degradation of the camps; his descent into madness and confrontation with a feral boy who believes himself to be a dog -- doesn't seem to daunt Schrader in the slightest. The film is not a complete success. Somehow the clown and dog-boy are too easily cured, at least in a 106-minute movie, and for all the true virtuosity of Goldblum's performance, the character seems more of a metaphor for survivor's guilt than a flesh-and-blood man. Still you've got to hand it to Schrader: He pulls off enough of this impressionistic comedy to provoke passions and arguments anew about a topic that seems done to death. The film should cause a stir at festivals and in adult specialty venues, though grosses probably will be modest. Other than "Schindler's List" and "Life is Beautiful," the Holocaust does not usually light up the box office. Nevertheless, the film will strike responsive cords in North America, Europe and of course Israel. Goldblum's Adam Stein survived the death camps not only because he could play the violin while fellow Jews including his own family marched to their deaths, but also because a sadistic camp commander (Willem Dafoe) wanted Adam's entertainment to take his mind off an arduous job. A broken man after the war, he lives off the commander's own stolen money in Berlin for a while. By the time he arrives in Israel, looking for his daughter, he is quite insane. At an asylum in the Negev Desert populated solely by Holocaust survivors, he still is the main attraction, drawing cheers from fellow inmates, making love to a beautiful nurse (Ayelet Zurer) and most definitely the pet project of its head doctor (Derek Jacobi). Hard to say what impresses everyone more -- his comic temperament or his shattered psyche. Do the doctors and nurses need a destroyed Adam to justify not only their work but also the very existence of the Zionist state? Do the inmates sense a kindred though more flamboyant spirit in Adam? Is he their messiah?..." More at www.hollywoodreporter.com
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Post by Patcat on Sept 10, 2008 12:42:22 GMT -5
I suppose the question of what an actor owes his or her fans could be a thread unto itself. As others have noted, if no one watched the actor's work, there'd be no reason for the actor's work. At the same time, an actor is a human being, with his or her own concerns and life. He or she needs time and privacy to do his or her work. What I've read about and from Mr. D'Onofrio suggests he's an actor who needs that time of study and reflection more than some other actors. Some of the parts he's played in the past certainly suggest to me that he might need some time to put them on and shake them off. He's also stated in interviews that he's a very shy person and he's never seemed entirely comfortable in them. But, as others also have noted in this thread, Mr. D'Onofrio has a history of treating fans--fans, not necessarily the press--with great courtesy, and I recall an interview where he indicated being polite and grateful to fans was part of his profession.
On another thread, I appreciate all the posts about the Festival. Both Mr. D'Onofrio and Mr. Goldblum's films sound very interesting--although Mr. Goldblum's raises memories of a film Jerry Lewis did several years ago about a clown who entertained children in the concentration camps. Some French critics loved it, but everyone else who saw it (and there weren't many) thought it one of the most tasteless things they'd ever seen.
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Post by DonnaJo on Sept 10, 2008 13:10:38 GMT -5
I remember that Jerry Lewis film too, Patcat. I haven't seen it, but I recall that it received bad reviews.
I get the impression that VDO, even after all of this time, is still surprised by how loyal his fan base is. I remember Susan & others posting their experiences at the DVD signing a few years back at the NBC Experience Store in NYC. They said that Vincent seemed wowed by the 50+ fans that showed to see him & Kate.
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Post by annabelleleigh on Sept 11, 2008 9:58:07 GMT -5
Goldblum on his method and "Adam Resurrected" which premiered last night at TIFF. You can also listen to Goldblum explain his role in this radio interview: www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9h5B0v6MFkAL P.S. Next stop is The Mill Valley Film Festival later this month where "Adam Resurrected" will be shown during an evening of tribute to director Paul Schrader. Goldblum is expected to attend. When is this actor going to squeeze in any CI episodes? No wonder his character doesn't have a name yet. ;-) --------------------- FEST WATCHThe Associated Press September 11, 2008 Excerpt: " The Goldblum methodJeff Goldblum has an eccentric way of promoting his TIFF film Adam Resurrected, a surreal Holocaust drama that is pretty challenging to sit through. "[In life], we all lose our looks, our health, our friends, our professions and finally our lives, I'm sorry to say," he said, laughing. "But the way one accepts that can be an opportunity. That's what the movie hits on that can be nourishing." Give Goldblum credit for his full year of research: To play Adam, a Jewish comedian in 1930s Berlin who loses his family and his mind, he took violin lessons; met with a creator of the Holocaust Museum in Washington; went to Germany for a month to work on his accent; visited the Majdanek concentration camp in Poland to peer into the still-intact gas chambers and barracks full of shoes; went to Israel and floated in the Dead Sea; interviewed survivors in Los Angeles; and studied with Cesar Millan, the so-called Dog Whisperer. "From the day I get any part I consider myself on the job," Goldblum said. "But for this one I felt a particular responsibility to be worthy of the material." The full story at www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080911.FESTWATCH11/TPStory/Entertainment
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Post by Ladyheather on Sept 11, 2008 21:20:11 GMT -5
Does not sound like a film I could sit through.
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Post by Sirenna on Sept 18, 2008 17:37:36 GMT -5
I hear you, Donnajo. It was disappointing he didn't attend but not unexpected. The list of attendees is not like an RSVP or anything firm at all. It's released by the publicity dept of the movies involved. The actors have little control over that - if they're in the credits they usually would be picked to attend.
next year, maybe. Is he filming anything else these days?
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