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Post by tjara on Apr 27, 2009 18:00:24 GMT -5
Sorry to disagree, but I think the coolest thing is the moving fountain in the opening credits!! The water is actually flowing in this one - lovely effect! ;D
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ZackNicholsgirl
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I love both doggies and kitties. I could just scrunch up their cute little faces! - Jeff Goldblum
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Post by ZackNicholsgirl on Apr 27, 2009 18:03:17 GMT -5
HAHA I didn't even noticed! Oh god! LOL
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Post by outerbankschick on Apr 27, 2009 18:08:21 GMT -5
Ok, I'm going to pay closer attention to that next time. I was watching the opening credits for those kinds of things, but that one got by me.
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ZackNicholsgirl
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I love both doggies and kitties. I could just scrunch up their cute little faces! - Jeff Goldblum
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Post by ZackNicholsgirl on Apr 27, 2009 18:12:28 GMT -5
I will too LOL. I'll blame it on the Blum though! I'd have seen the fountain if it wasn't for him LMAO!
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Post by jeffan on Apr 27, 2009 18:16:34 GMT -5
I was boring and actually READING the credits!
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Post by jeffan on Apr 27, 2009 18:20:44 GMT -5
Hey, No-one's said I'm not boring.
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Post by outerbankschick on Apr 27, 2009 18:29:19 GMT -5
You're not boring.
Sorry, I was out of the room! ;D
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Post by jeffan on Apr 27, 2009 18:31:46 GMT -5
At last a response! Glad you came back into the room OBC...I would have gone down in the hallowed halls of the forum as boring! Might still happen.
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Post by outerbankschick on Apr 27, 2009 18:34:20 GMT -5
Nah, we'd never let that happen to you. And if there's one thing JG was not last night, it was boring. LOL!
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ZackNicholsgirl
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I love both doggies and kitties. I could just scrunch up their cute little faces! - Jeff Goldblum
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Post by ZackNicholsgirl on Apr 27, 2009 18:44:56 GMT -5
I was boring and actually READING the credits! The Only boring person in here is me Jeffan ahah!
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Post by jeffan on Apr 28, 2009 7:28:14 GMT -5
I agree.
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Post by jeffan on Apr 28, 2009 8:01:43 GMT -5
I have watched Rock Star for a second time and it has had the opposite effect on me to Playing Dead which improves with multiple viewings. RS does not. I did thoroughly enjoy it on first viewing but I now think that my anticipation was slightly better than my participation. That being said, I am a card-carrying Blum(erite) so my initial impression was already a given. I have moved on but please make allowances if I come across as prejudiced. It is not my aim.
I shall begin at the beginning and apologise beforehand if I’m following in the footsteps of those that have gone before me. I’m trying to be as brief as possible in my retread and trying only to focus on areas that may not have already had the third-degree. My write-up may appear to be lacking depth but, hey, who wants to read the same old same old from me?
I do give more than a nod and thumbs-up to all those commentators of RS regardless if I agree or disagree.
As to the introduction, I thought it overlong as I did the week before in PD. This show is only forty-three minutes and I do think they should spend less time setting the scene for what is to follow. Afterall, it’s the detectives we want to see in action. So, a cut back in the introduction could be easily achieved with good writing.
I did like the opening titles as Tjara’s and Z-girl’s examples clearly display. I did find it strange not to see Eames, Goren and the captain strutting their stuff towards the camera.
It is difficult to introduce a new cast member into the tight-knit CI community, but I thought they did it very well. Nichol’s introduction threw his new partner off-kilter and set the pattern for the rest of the episode if not the series. I do not intend to dwell on Wheeler. Suffice to say I thought the “shock horror” looks and gasps at her new partner was like the Mary Pickford School of Acting. Nevertheless, even though I do not know this actress’s work , she was not as bad as Dragonsback led me to believe! In a nutshell, good introduction to the goofball detective.
The piano playing. At first my toes curled but when Nichols made his point - I chose to be a cop - to the suspected killer, they uncurled. But, please, do not do it again. We all know you can tinkle those ivories and any more would only be gratuitous.
Ah, this is a difference of opinion with nomoreexcuses and tjara. I did sense/feel that connectiveness between Nichols and the captain and that they had a history. I claim this because of the scene where the captain tells his detective to - forget what’s going on in his own mind and concentrate on the crime. The stare-out afterwards was like High Noon with eyeballs drawn and waiting for the clock to strike twelve. That for me suggested the connected history and I felt it in that scene.
I noted with a smile, whereas Goren carries a leather-bound folder for his documents, Nichols’ carried an artist’s type portfolio carrying case. Is this to signify that Goren is the scientific Sherlock and Nichols is the intuitive Freud in their approaches? Indulge me please as I do enjoy trying to spot those artefacts of symbolism!
There was no stand-out scene for me as in PD’s cemetery scene. The closest to it would be when Nichols tried to make the mother of the first victim feel better.
As to the storyline - been there - seen that - but better. However, I do think it was a good backdrop to introduce the Nichols character. This cool dude who appears to fool around at a crime scene. Appropriate as in you could not have introduced Nichols and all his characteristic traits in an episode such as the one where the guy was a cannibal. I think that would have been inappropriate. The story-line gave the writers the opportunity to show-case the goofiness. Or am I going down that symbolism road again?
My shallow moment. I like the hoodie get-up. But I still want to know if patches have been sewn on that darn cardigan.
Overall, without Jeff, I would have been bored. So, c’mon Ed Zuckerman, you must do better, you’ve misled me in your interviews (so far).
I shall give this episode an A as I’m feeling generous because of Jeff and Eric. There is something going down between those two and I want to see that eyeballing make their eyes bulge.
(I would not liked to have watched the original version in which, as Annabelle suggested, they may have bleached out too much blumminess).
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Post by Jefferaldo on Apr 28, 2009 9:07:53 GMT -5
I shall begin at the beginning and apologise beforehand if I’m following in the footsteps of those that have gone before me. No need to apologise, we are all here to discuss the show! As to the introduction, I thought it overlong as I did the week before in PD. This show is only forty-three minutes and I do think they should spend less time setting the scene for what is to follow. Afterall, it’s the detectives we want to see in action. So, a cut back in the introduction could be easily achieved with good writing. This is how CI has always been. It is the formula that the creator (Rene Balcer) intended. If you have a chance to watch the pilot, "One", the whole crime is shown, including how and who before the opening credits. I did like the opening titles as Tjara’s and Z-girl’s examples clearly display. I did find it strange not to see Eames, Goren and the captain strutting their stuff towards the camera. The only time both teams have been together at the walk is the 2-parter episode "In the Wee Small Hours". The show is actually split right down the middle. It is difficult to introduce a new cast member into the tight-knit CI community, but I thought they did it very well. Nichol’s introduction threw his new partner off-kilter and set the pattern for the rest of the episode if not the series. I do not intend to dwell on Wheeler. Suffice to say I thought the “shock horror” looks and gasps at her new partner was like the Mary Pickford School of Acting. Nevertheless, even though I do not know this actress’s work , she was not as bad as Dragonsback led me to believe! In a nutshell, good introduction to the goofball detective. I believe her acting in this episode has been a major improvement. In every Logan episode I have always found a reason to dislike her. In this episode, I did not. Ah, this is a difference of opinion with nomoreexcuses and tjara. I did sense/feel that connectiveness between Nichols and the captain and that they had a history. I claim this because of the scene where the captain tells his detective to - forget what’s going on in his own mind and concentrate on the crime. The stare-out afterwards was like High Noon with eyeballs drawn and waiting for the clock to strike twelve. That for me suggested the connected history and I felt it in that scene. I got the feeling that they had some history too. But that being said, I think that perhaps Nichols wasn't one of Ross' favourite partners, but perhaps the one that was the best detective. There was no stand-out scene for me as in PD’s cemetery scene. The closest to it would be when Nichols tried to make the mother of the first victim feel better. Oh I thought there were quite a few stand out scenes. First of all, the aria, of course. I also liked as you mentioned the scene with the parents where Nichols explains the difference between an emcee and a rapper (much to Wheeler's annoyance), and the scene where Nichols is chatting privately to Philip. As to the storyline - been there - seen that - but better. However, I do think it was a good backdrop to introduce the Nichols character. This cool dude who appears to fool around at a crime scene. Appropriate as in you could not have introduced Nichols and all his characteristic traits in an episode such as the one where the guy was a cannibal. I think that would have been inappropriate. The story-line gave the writers the opportunity to show-case the goofiness. Or am I going down that symbolism road again? Yes I have to agree here. The storyline... the storyline! Not so much that I have been there seen that (although I have) but all music related crimes on any series just make me cringe. I'm not sure if its because I used to be a musician myself but I cannot thoroughly enjoy an episode set in the music world. Although the piano playing was nice.
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Post by DonnaJo on Apr 28, 2009 10:44:18 GMT -5
The piano playing. At first my toes curled but when Nichols made his point - I chose to be a cop - to the suspected killer, they uncurled. But, please, do not do it again. We all know you can tinkle those ivories and any more would only be gratuitous. May I disagree? For those who are not long time fans of Jeff's, the piano playing was I'm sure a pleasant surprise. I wouldn't have known that he played so well if not for you & ZNG's heads up. ;D If if he plays every episode, than it may get old. Good eyes! I didn't notice a difference. And now seeing it, I totally agree that each symbolizes their differing approach to crime solving.
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Post by jeffan on Apr 28, 2009 11:35:15 GMT -5
Point taken Donnajo about the piano playing. I just hope that it does not become too regular an occurence as sometimes props like that can come across as forced and contrived. In this episode it fitted into the storyline.
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