kacesq
Silver Shield Investigator
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Post by kacesq on Apr 10, 2011 19:42:57 GMT -5
I love what you say about Goren and Eames saving each other's souls, Patcat. I agree with you wholeheartedly, but as a newbie, I am intrigued by your Deakins theory! Can you expand a bit, please?
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Post by skittles4me on Apr 10, 2011 19:57:17 GMT -5
I still have a hard time thinking that, in the real world, a single woman would give up a career due to department politics. It would be more realistic for her to suck it up and compromise for a few more years and then collect her 20 year pension. That is why I just feel there had to be some deeper emotional reason behind her resignation. However, since Alex is coming back in TV land, I do believe Patcat's and Maherjunkie's reasons probably will be used to explain why she resigned!
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angua
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Post by angua on Apr 10, 2011 20:47:04 GMT -5
I still have a hard time thinking that, in the real world, a single woman would give up a career due to department politics. It would be more realistic for her to suck it up and compromise for a few more years and then collect her 20 year pension. That is why I just feel there had to be some deeper emotional reason behind her resignation. However, since Alex is coming back in TV land, I do believe Patcat's and Maherjunkie's reasons probably will be used to explain why she resigned! The real world? Girl, what show have you been watching?
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Post by maherjunkie on Apr 11, 2011 10:40:05 GMT -5
I don't think it's impossible she had a Johnny Paycheck "Take this Job and Shove it" moment but she would be a fool to give up her pension.
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angua
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Post by angua on Apr 11, 2011 10:44:41 GMT -5
Please please please don't tell me you think this was an out of character moment for her.
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Post by skittles4me on Apr 11, 2011 10:59:51 GMT -5
Angua- Not THAT "Real World"! LOL I meant my personal "Real World" in which one does not just walk away from a career. A reality show about my life would look like this: Skittles has to figure out how to get her son to his basketball practice which is rescheduled on the same night it is her turn to drive the ballet carpool and her husband has to work late. What will she cook for dinner? Does she need to go to the store? Tomorrow is purple day at school. Will Skittles remember and have the laundry done in time? ...... ETA: Do you think the resignation was in character?
quoting Maherjunkie: ...she would be a fool to give up her pension.
Exactly! Unless she is a fool for love..... (ahhhh ducking flying objects including rotten tomatoes! I couldn't resist! ;D LOL)
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angua
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Post by angua on Apr 11, 2011 11:04:56 GMT -5
Angua- Not THAT "Real World"! LOL I meant my personal "Real World" in which one does not just walk away from a career. A reality show about my life would look like this: Skittles has to figure out how to get her son to his basketball practice which is rescheduled on the same night it is her turn to drive the ballet carpool and her husband has to work late. What will she cook for dinner? Does she need to go to the store? Tomorrow is purple day at school. Will Skittles remember and have the laundry done in time? ......quoting Maherjunkie: ...she would be a fool to give up her pension.Exactly! Unless she is a fool for love..... (ahhhh ducking flying objects including rotten tomatoes! I couldn't resist! ;D LOL) The world you're discribing is our real world, but allow me to posit that in the LOCI real world, you would also be juggling not getting framed for triple homicide by your evil ex-twin! ;D Anyway, are you guys now saying that this sweet and touching act of loyalty by Eames was both unreasonable and out of character? Sigh. I will not spend the rest of the day at my computer waiting for a resolution. I'm going to go to the mall.
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Post by maherjunkie on Apr 11, 2011 11:06:00 GMT -5
If you mean me I am not sure. I can see Eames acting on principle rather than raw logic.
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Post by skittles4me on Apr 11, 2011 11:46:46 GMT -5
It was sweet and touching- because it was unrealistic and out of character IMO. Sweet and touching moments are often unexpected. When we thought "Loyalty 2" was the end of Goren and Eames, watching through my shippygoggles, I believed the only explanation of her giving up her career and pension was for love. Now that they are returning, I still want to hold on to my original thought ( I believe, I believe), but realistically know that they won't bring them back with anything obviously shippy. My guess is that they WILL present her resignation as an act of principle. No resolution- just batting ideas around! Have fun at the mall!
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Post by Patcat on Apr 11, 2011 12:08:09 GMT -5
Re. my theory about Deakins--He was as much a political operative as a cop when we first see him. And as time goes by, and he's exposed more to Goren and Eames, he becomes less the politician and more the ethical man. I'm not sure the James Deakins we meet at the start of Season One would've done the right thing with Frank Adair. Deakins' comment, "I need to know I'm doing right by my detectives, my good detectives," demonstrates his soul was saved.
Patcat
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Post by maherjunkie on Apr 11, 2011 12:34:25 GMT -5
Oh I don't think he would have supported corruption that deep.
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Post by Patcat on Apr 12, 2011 13:00:31 GMT -5
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest Deakins was corrupt, and I overstated his sympathy for Frank Adair. I do think there were points where Deakins could've been pulled--or slipped--to the dark side, and his contact with Goren and Eames kept him from that. He could've become something like Frank Adair. I don't think Adair realized what he'd become.
I have this hope that one way Goren and Eames will come back is that there will be revelations that Chief of Detectives Kenny Moran will be revealed as a corrupt cop--perhaps in league with Adair--and he's been stripped of his rank and hauled away. Somehow, Bobby and Alex will be vindicated amidst all of this.
Patcat
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