Post by Patcat on Feb 17, 2011 8:59:12 GMT -5
ENDGAME
Will air 7pm and 11pm (EST) on February 24 on Oxygen. The 21st episode of Season Six. First aired May 14, 2007.
Written by Kate Rorick, Julie Martin, and Warren Leight. Directed by Jean de Segonzac.
Guest Actors:
Leslie Hendrix as M.E. Rodgers
Roy Scheider as Mark Ford Brady
Mark Linn-Baker as Wally Stevens
J. Smith-Cameron as Miss Hill
Tony Goldwyn as Frank Goren
Rita Moreno as Frances Goren
(All accept Mr. Scheider are returning guest actors.)
Synopsis: A serial killer about to be executed contacts Goren.
Ripped from the headlines: Possibly based on William Richard Bradford. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Richard_Bradford
Quotes:
Goren: “As serial killers go, this Mark Ford Brady is definitely within the hash marks.” Ross: “Right down to having three names.”
Brady (to Eames): “You’re so impatient. Eager. Like my crocuses.”
Brady: “Were the crocuses in bloom? The first flower of the springtime. Impatient. Sometimes they push up right through the snow.” Eames: “We dug ‘em up. Every one of them.”
Goren: “You’re afraid of death, aren’t you?” Brady: “I’ve seen a lot of death.” Goren: “I’ve seen a lot of death too. But for you it’s about control. That’s what it’s all about.”
Frances Goren (to nurse): “For God’s sake, I’m dying. What difference does it make what my blood pressure is?”
Frances Goren: “One death row visit is as good as another.”
Frances Goren: “Oh, Bobby, Bobby. It’s the prodigal son.”
Ross: “You don’t need this in your life right now.”
Goren: “Don’t tell me who I am and how I think.”
Ross: “He’s too emotionally invested in this.” Eames: “But I’m not.”
Brady: “You can do it. They’ll let you do it. You know you have it in you to do it.”
Frances Goren (to Bobby): “You look like you’re not taking care of yourself.”
Queries:
Thirty four pages of remarkably intelligent and civilized discussion, much of it about Frank Goren’s motives and Frances Goren’s relationship with Bobby. So, can we find more to talk about this episode? Let’s see.
Did LOCI “Jump the Shark” with this one?
Has Bobby always seen his mother as the victim in the relationship with her husband, the man he thought was his father? Is this one reason why he’s so shocked by the events in this story? Is he shocked to discover his mother betrayed her husband?
Is it possible William Goren wasn’t such a bad guy?
Goren has apparently been in touch with Wally Stevens. Is Goren the victim of no good deed goes unpunished? Is he still in contact with Wally?
Should Bobby be on this case? Should Eames? Come to that, what are NYPD detectives doing with a case involving a prisoner on Pennsylvania's death row?
Will, should, Bobby get credit for solving the many cases the discovery of Brady’s scrapbooks will solve?
Is Frank worried about his mother’s finances? Or his own?
What has Frank told Frances about Eames?
Was Brady and Frances Goren’s relationship initially consensual? Was Bobby’s conception the result of a rape?
Does Frances want Bobby to be happy? Or does she hate him because he reminds her of what Brady did to her?
How long has Brady followed Bobby’s career? How long has he suspected Bobby might be his biological son?
Does Frank suspect Brady is Bobby’s biological father?
Did Frank really take care of Bobby when they were kids?
Why doesn’t Bobby remember anything about “Uncle Mark”?
Who saved Bobby Goren? How did he learn to be a good man?
Is Frances Goren using her medical condition to manipulate Bobby?
Did Frances’ rejection set off Brady’s killings?
Why does Alex insist on Bobby remaining on the case?
Comments:
Ok, there are a lot of plot holes. No way Bobby Goren should be on this case (I have to agree with Captain Ross on this one). How did Brady get to make contact with Bobby? Isn’t it convenient that Wally Stevens is in prison with Brady? But for all of those problems, I found this an enthralling episode. In many ways, especially for a story about a vicious serial killer, it’s remarkably subtle and ambiguous. Frank and Frances Goren are acted and written in particularly subtle ways, so that it’s very difficult to know their motives and to know if they are acting for or against Bobby. Kudos to Tony Goldwyn and Rita Moreno for their great performances. And to the late, great Roy Scheider, who’s both charming and terrifying as Mark Ford Brady. Again we get to see how Kathryn Erbe can create so much from a few lines and scenes. And Mr. D’Onofrio is heartbreaking, especially in his scenes with Ms. Moreno.
An observation—I initially remembered Bobby as trying to bring up the subject of who his biological father was with his mother while she was dying, and thinking that was more than a bit cruel. I realized on a reviewing of that scene that it’s Frances Goren who brings up the subject during Bobby’s last visit to her. He tries to change the subject, but she continues to push it, and then blames him for bringing it up.
Submitted, as always, for your consideration and comments.
And this will be the last of our return to Alex and Bobby’s rides through Hades for a while. A slightly less personal and painful episode for next week.
Patcat
Will air 7pm and 11pm (EST) on February 24 on Oxygen. The 21st episode of Season Six. First aired May 14, 2007.
Written by Kate Rorick, Julie Martin, and Warren Leight. Directed by Jean de Segonzac.
Guest Actors:
Leslie Hendrix as M.E. Rodgers
Roy Scheider as Mark Ford Brady
Mark Linn-Baker as Wally Stevens
J. Smith-Cameron as Miss Hill
Tony Goldwyn as Frank Goren
Rita Moreno as Frances Goren
(All accept Mr. Scheider are returning guest actors.)
Synopsis: A serial killer about to be executed contacts Goren.
Ripped from the headlines: Possibly based on William Richard Bradford. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Richard_Bradford
Quotes:
Goren: “As serial killers go, this Mark Ford Brady is definitely within the hash marks.” Ross: “Right down to having three names.”
Brady (to Eames): “You’re so impatient. Eager. Like my crocuses.”
Brady: “Were the crocuses in bloom? The first flower of the springtime. Impatient. Sometimes they push up right through the snow.” Eames: “We dug ‘em up. Every one of them.”
Goren: “You’re afraid of death, aren’t you?” Brady: “I’ve seen a lot of death.” Goren: “I’ve seen a lot of death too. But for you it’s about control. That’s what it’s all about.”
Frances Goren (to nurse): “For God’s sake, I’m dying. What difference does it make what my blood pressure is?”
Frances Goren: “One death row visit is as good as another.”
Frances Goren: “Oh, Bobby, Bobby. It’s the prodigal son.”
Ross: “You don’t need this in your life right now.”
Goren: “Don’t tell me who I am and how I think.”
Ross: “He’s too emotionally invested in this.” Eames: “But I’m not.”
Brady: “You can do it. They’ll let you do it. You know you have it in you to do it.”
Frances Goren (to Bobby): “You look like you’re not taking care of yourself.”
Queries:
Thirty four pages of remarkably intelligent and civilized discussion, much of it about Frank Goren’s motives and Frances Goren’s relationship with Bobby. So, can we find more to talk about this episode? Let’s see.
Did LOCI “Jump the Shark” with this one?
Has Bobby always seen his mother as the victim in the relationship with her husband, the man he thought was his father? Is this one reason why he’s so shocked by the events in this story? Is he shocked to discover his mother betrayed her husband?
Is it possible William Goren wasn’t such a bad guy?
Goren has apparently been in touch with Wally Stevens. Is Goren the victim of no good deed goes unpunished? Is he still in contact with Wally?
Should Bobby be on this case? Should Eames? Come to that, what are NYPD detectives doing with a case involving a prisoner on Pennsylvania's death row?
Will, should, Bobby get credit for solving the many cases the discovery of Brady’s scrapbooks will solve?
Is Frank worried about his mother’s finances? Or his own?
What has Frank told Frances about Eames?
Was Brady and Frances Goren’s relationship initially consensual? Was Bobby’s conception the result of a rape?
Does Frances want Bobby to be happy? Or does she hate him because he reminds her of what Brady did to her?
How long has Brady followed Bobby’s career? How long has he suspected Bobby might be his biological son?
Does Frank suspect Brady is Bobby’s biological father?
Did Frank really take care of Bobby when they were kids?
Why doesn’t Bobby remember anything about “Uncle Mark”?
Who saved Bobby Goren? How did he learn to be a good man?
Is Frances Goren using her medical condition to manipulate Bobby?
Did Frances’ rejection set off Brady’s killings?
Why does Alex insist on Bobby remaining on the case?
Comments:
Ok, there are a lot of plot holes. No way Bobby Goren should be on this case (I have to agree with Captain Ross on this one). How did Brady get to make contact with Bobby? Isn’t it convenient that Wally Stevens is in prison with Brady? But for all of those problems, I found this an enthralling episode. In many ways, especially for a story about a vicious serial killer, it’s remarkably subtle and ambiguous. Frank and Frances Goren are acted and written in particularly subtle ways, so that it’s very difficult to know their motives and to know if they are acting for or against Bobby. Kudos to Tony Goldwyn and Rita Moreno for their great performances. And to the late, great Roy Scheider, who’s both charming and terrifying as Mark Ford Brady. Again we get to see how Kathryn Erbe can create so much from a few lines and scenes. And Mr. D’Onofrio is heartbreaking, especially in his scenes with Ms. Moreno.
An observation—I initially remembered Bobby as trying to bring up the subject of who his biological father was with his mother while she was dying, and thinking that was more than a bit cruel. I realized on a reviewing of that scene that it’s Frances Goren who brings up the subject during Bobby’s last visit to her. He tries to change the subject, but she continues to push it, and then blames him for bringing it up.
Submitted, as always, for your consideration and comments.
And this will be the last of our return to Alex and Bobby’s rides through Hades for a while. A slightly less personal and painful episode for next week.
Patcat