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Post by Patcat on Apr 1, 2011 22:44:57 GMT -5
So. If we can do this without my bringing out the ASP bat--what do you want from the next season?
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Post by kacesq on Apr 2, 2011 8:29:04 GMT -5
Compelling cases, Goren and Eames in sync, a solid ending if this is the last season, and some of the CI snarky humor I miss so much.
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Post by dimarec on Apr 2, 2011 11:34:04 GMT -5
Goren and Eames calm, cool, remarkable (and quotable) remarks...
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Post by angua on Apr 2, 2011 11:40:52 GMT -5
I think they should start by trying for good writing. The rest should fall into place once that's sorted out.
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Post by skittles4me on Apr 2, 2011 11:48:04 GMT -5
All of the above!!!
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Post by dimarec on Apr 2, 2011 12:23:24 GMT -5
and that "is he good or evil? ok, he is good!" feeling about Goren. It gets me when he shows us how evil the villain is. (And Eames had it already figured it out... she outsmarts me so often... )
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Post by angua on Apr 2, 2011 12:32:36 GMT -5
What? Goren's always struck me as good! Unorthodox, yes, but always good. He's probably the best example of Good that the L&O-verse has ever produced. When has he struck you as evil, dimarec?
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Post by dimarec on Apr 2, 2011 12:50:02 GMT -5
In some arias, I just don't know if he is evil or not. He builds trust with the criminal in a way that I cannot see if he is evil or not, and then I find out that he is just bringing the criminal to reality by creating a rapport, confronting him or her to the situation, and there comes the confession.
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Post by skittles4me on Apr 2, 2011 17:38:30 GMT -5
I feel that Goren is very good too. When he has been sympathetic with a suspect I've always felt it was a means to an end...a confession.
Something I have wondered about is why do "the guys upstairs" question his sanity? As Angua stated above, Goren IS unorthodox, but would that make people think he is crazy? Is it because his mom had schizophrenia? He does go "outside the box" ("Untethered") and he breaks rules ("Loyalty"), but why would that make people think he is insane? Lots of people disregard authority figures. That makes them insubordinate. Not mentally ill! Also, I would think that his success rate would make his superiors overlook his unusual behaviors like sniffing everything and dancing with suspects ("Pas de Deux")! I've just felt like this is a loose end since I don't get the "Goren is insane" idea. Maybe the therapy sessions in season 10 will provide some answers. Have any of y'all thought about this?
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Post by maherjunkie on Apr 3, 2011 10:39:24 GMT -5
I never got that either. I also never thought Big was a jerk, Carrie was. Yes, I know, mixing shows but both perplex me.
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Post by Moonbeam on Apr 4, 2011 10:49:03 GMT -5
Plausible plots, interesting villains, good snarks and some humor along the way.
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Post by maherjunkie on Apr 4, 2011 11:02:34 GMT -5
A reoccurence of Logan, Carver, even Bishop, Wheeler, and unmistakeable sexual tension.
Yes, I know, I won't get it.
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Post by jeffan on Apr 7, 2011 6:45:51 GMT -5
I’m shifting the emphasis and predicting what I think we will see in Season Ten.
As this is the final season, we’ll see a lot of re-treading the early years. The show will focus on -
police procedural
plenty of head and body bends
Goren acrobatics
lots of sniffing dead bodies
Goren’s folder very much on display
Eames and Goren going undercover
tag team
prolonged arias in the closing scenes
Going back to basics is no bad thing as it was the early years that captured the show’s audience and it would be fitting for it to end as it started. I do know that we have seen all the above in one form or another throughout the seasons but, my point is, that there will be particular focus on what made the Goren character watchable.
The acrobatics will be more tempered as Vincent doesn’t look (from promos) as "fit" as he was in Season One. Much easier to climb onto the bonnet of a car than to get up and balance on a church pew.
My list above is not extant and I appreciate that you can’t fully recover old ground, but I do think we will see a glut of nods/references to the early years.
The only major difference I think is that we will also see the Eames character more high-profile as in being a more equal partner to Goren. By this I mean actually fitting the clues of some crimes together before Goren, but he will always be the lead in the interrogation room. I think it would be too radical if it were vice-versa in the arias - pity but I like to think I may be wrong.
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Post by skittles4me on Apr 7, 2011 8:07:53 GMT -5
Jeffan, I like your predictions! I have a few to add:
Will continue with some focus on their personal lives as that is the trend in TV these days.
More Eames in sleeveless tops as in the early years! LOL (She inspires me to work out)
Maybe we will get to see her take the lead on a case- she did get a little more attention in the later years and "Eames cases" generated a lot of discussion! (Amends, Lady's Man)
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Post by dimarec on Apr 7, 2011 8:25:44 GMT -5
I believe we will also hear music in this last season. Not as much as in Cold Case, but probably we will get at least one tune.
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