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Post by alliehalliwell on May 22, 2011 20:28:41 GMT -5
Okay, so I found LOCI to be on CTV tonight and it stated something about Goren and Eames returning to Major Case. I didn't notice it on tv last week and my mom (who also keeps track of the show) said it wasn't. So yeah...this was the first episode aired on our station here, tonight and yet, it's supposed to be the second episode. Hurray, CTV's airing out of order. Whatever, I'm gonna just watch NBC when it airs the premier next week... Overall, decent episode. I saw the whole priest thing a mile away. A little predictable but I loved the interrogation scene at the end. I thought a good twist would have been if the woman who had gotten in the car crash was actually murdered and her car was tampered with... I did like the Goren psych session and how he obviously thought that since he studied up on psychology and read all those books that it was all a waste of time. I liked how he handled the psychology and I agree with other people. I really don't want him and the shrink to EVER hook up. Hopefully they won't cross that line.
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Leonore
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Post by Leonore on May 24, 2011 19:54:35 GMT -5
I posted under "The Last Street in Manhattan" that I had seen the rough cut of this episode sent to the media as the first episode before USA put "Rispetto" first. I was asked about any changes between the rough cut and the aired version. I am posting here because I don't want to veer that topic off subject.
Besides the fact that there was no therapy session in the rough cut, I only noticed two significant (in my mind) differences, one at the beginning and one at the end.
At the beginning, as Goren and Eames walk into Theresa's apartment you see all the CSU and police standing around working or talking. There is a pause, as everyone notices as they walk in. Everyone is watching them, some people nod and you can hear murmurs of "Hey, welcome back", "Welcome back detectives" and one female CSU says "Hey Bobby" as Goren and Eames walk with the detective on through into Theresa's bedroom. Goren gives a slight nod acknowledging the response.
When Goren asks who moved the body, the detective says no one, shows Eames the money transfer sheet and as he leaves them to it he looks at them both and says "Welcome back". Goren, kneeling over the body, looks up and nods again in acknowledgment. [ IMO this was a MUCH better welcome back than the single comment of welcome back in "Rispetto"!]
At the end of the rough cut of this episode when Johnny is ushered out of the room with his lawyer, Goren is leaning against the wall, but looks calmly straight into the mirror. Through the glass, Eames says matter-of-factly, "He's back" as the Captain nods his head in agreement.
As to which version I found "better" or more satisfying, idget, I liked the welcome back entrance of "Consoler" much better than the one in "Rispetto".
As to the ending, I'm torn. On the one hand, the He's back ending shows Goren looking straight at himself in the mirror and even looking through the mirror to Eames and the Captain. It was powerful to me. On the other hand, the ending shown on air was more murky and less defined. Goren still influx (as it were) not making eye contact with the mirror, knowing they were watching him and knowing that he is under scrutiny and his job is not secure. So for me, the end remains a toss up, both have merits.
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Post by idget on May 25, 2011 13:58:28 GMT -5
Thanks Lenore. It does sound like this would have been a better opener, for the life of me I can't figure out why USA would seem to sabatoge it's own show. Something I have been asking myself for 2 yrs now.
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Post by idget on Jun 6, 2011 23:42:55 GMT -5
Was watching this episode on NBC and realized that the cutting of scenes has already begun, among them was the scene where Eames asks if she is too old for catechism class was no where to be found. I guess it is important to watch the first episode on USA to see them in their entirety.
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