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Post by sarahlee on Jul 25, 2006 13:27:30 GMT -5
You know you're a Bobby Goren fan when you know he can walk on water! ;D
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Post by sobergal95 on Nov 12, 2006 23:15:38 GMT -5
This episode was on Bravo tonight, and it's one of my favorites so I just wanted to read what you all thought. I just love it. Techguy mentioned something this week to the effect of "the episode lives or dies by its villians" and Harvey and Marion are two of my all-time favorite LOCI "villians". And this episode was just a hoot, such dark humor. I loved the acting coach guy; Marion says "I want to frighten them with my eyes" and he says "If they're here tonight, they'll be frightened". Ouch. And she just doesn't get it, doesn't even blink. God love her. This episode was just remarkably brilliant for so many reasons.
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Post by elizabethbay on Nov 13, 2006 0:06:44 GMT -5
For my money, Rebecca Schull stole the show as Ester. Stole it right out from under the legendary Claire Bloom's nose. In fact, that whole hoot of business of Immovable-Object Ester against usually Irresistible-Forces Goren and Eames is one of my top ten moments of all LOCI eps. I love the way that Goren rather plaintively admires the woman's cool rebuffs. "We're usually in the door by now, Mrs [add name])!" Sounds so boyish there, like he's a Boy Scout trying to do a chore and earn a badge.
Loved the Goren Tarantella (or whatever the hell that dance was supposed to be LOL), Harvey was a perfect slime-bag villain, too. Thought the aria stank, though. Not the words of the aria so much as the staging. Had that corny Murder She Wrote all-is-revealed-at-the-scene feeling of Graansha.
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Post by nonmanis on Nov 13, 2006 0:42:59 GMT -5
I saw this episode twice today on Bravo Channel, and enjoyed the acting of all the actors, Claire Bloom I have seen on the TCM channel in the old movies. At the moment I'm watching the Pas De Deux episode, for the second time today, this is the one where the culprit fasten a bomb on a woman and set it off, and had his other girlfriend rob a bank I like the last part of this episode with the candies. Sunday is my day, can watch all the Criminal Intent twice. until 11PM. Starts here at three PM. Do you people know that there are many D'onofrio message boards and forums. This man is sure popular, but in many ways still very discreet.
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Post by sobergal95 on Nov 13, 2006 1:44:55 GMT -5
Loved the Goren Tarantella (or whatever the hell that dance was supposed to be LOL), Harvey was a perfect slime-bag villain, too. Thought the aria stank, though. Not the words of the aria so much as the staging. Had that corny Murder She Wrote all-is-revealed-at-the-scene feeling of Graansha. Now I positively loved the staging of the aria. It was so very theatrical which was appropriate as Marion waves her hands and glances towards the imaginary audience applauding her as the imaginary diva she imagines herself to be. It was cheesy, but I can imagine VDO and KE (the actors) enjoying themselves being back on stage. And I agree, the actress playing the mother was wonderful, as were the actors playing the agents, the benefit MC, even the loan shark guy. So deliciously pretentious and slimy. I think I liked Ester because the part was so different from warm, loving sweet, slightly dingy Faye on "Wings". "FABULOUS!!!" (and you have to wave both hands in the air like Marion would as you say it) LOCI does get some fantastic actors to appear. I am also looking forward to this coming weeks episode, I'm sure many will be up past their bedtimes posting and or rewatching and taking notes. I'm eager to see what you guys and gals will say.
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Post by elizabethbay on Nov 13, 2006 4:46:34 GMT -5
[ Now I positively loved the staging of the aria. It was so very theatrical which was appropriate as Marion waves her hands and glances towards the imaginary audience applauding her as the imaginary diva she imagines herself to be. Indeed, some lovely little Sengupta tricks of the mind being played on Marion - on Harvey too. Both of them playing to an impossibly tough crowd, in a way, looking for applause that they'll never win. To me, the plot missed an opportunity, though. I thought that it would have been more daring, more original to actually give Marion some talent. It would have invested the title "Unrequited" with greater poignancy, for starters. Make her truly denied, not just deluded, and so a far more tragic figure. Watching Claire Bloom being a camembert made me cringe for her, the actress, not for the character. Boy, you're not kidding. From the extras to the stars in the opening credits, the L&O universe teems with talent. It just bursts out of every frame. And believe me, on the far side of the world, we'll be hanging on your every word 48 hours to go...
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Post by sobergal95 on Nov 13, 2006 7:29:43 GMT -5
And believe me, on the far side of the world, we'll be hanging on your every word 48 hours to go... Oh, such pressure! If it stinks, I'll get out the thesaurus so I can express my opinion with more appropriate "wordsmithery" for this board this week. You all write so well here, some could pass for collegiate papers.
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Post by sarahlee on Nov 13, 2006 9:07:08 GMT -5
Ditto, sg, when I read my posts I'm dismayed at how much I use "really, actually, wonderful and etc."!
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Post by ragincajun on Jan 24, 2007 0:57:39 GMT -5
Watched this episode rerun tonight on USA, one of my fav. Love all episodes when Goren dances. I loved the aria at the end. Love Goren and Eames on the stage and both walking off opposite sides, like actors exiting the stage. Also Goren saying that Harvey will love prison, that is where all the famous people are.
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Post by DonnaJo on Jan 24, 2007 9:22:07 GMT -5
To me, the plot missed an opportunity, though. I thought that it would have been more daring, more original to actually give Marion some talent. It would have invested the title "Unrequited" with greater poignancy, for starters. Make her truly denied, not just deluded, and so a far more tragic figure. Watching Claire Bloom being a camembert made me cringe for her, the actress, not for the character. I wholeheartedly agree with you here. This episode was meant to be "light" if CI can be such a thing. Marion, Harvey & Harvey's mom portrayed as silly stereotypes. Especially Marion as an untalented & over the top performer, sort of like a bad American Idol contestant. Was this done so the writers could insert snarky lines, dance scenes & the battle of the doorway to amuse us viewers?
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Post by doctorj on Jan 25, 2007 11:46:34 GMT -5
i caught the re-run last night and it nearly broke my heart. i knew there were changes in bobby's character, but i didn't understand the true extent until i watched this episode and saw him do his dance, then imitate the dance class, then snag the notepad and waltz across the room while he fired off nosy questions... so different from the sedentary, almost uncurious man we see today.
i asked in another thread if we thought writing or acting accounted for the change. i agree the subject matter is lighter in this episode than in others, but watching VDO closely, i'm starting to believe the change has more to do with the acting and less to do with the writing. none of the funny moves he made --the dancing, the imitating -- appeared to be scripted.
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Post by Sirenna on Jan 25, 2007 16:07:58 GMT -5
this has never been one of my favourites but I think it is a very good episode. I've read some posts that liken it to a comic opera.
I saw real pathos and depth in the relationship between the mother who was eventually murdered and the son. They were fully drawn out characters. There were also some very inventive scenes. Vincent's improvisation has already been mentioned but the dance between G and E and the mother as they tried to gain entry was both canny and hilarious.
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