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Post by Metella on Mar 26, 2004 22:36:22 GMT -5
so the writers threw a bone to NYC lovers ....
the old employer of Tamera, when questioned about her current boyfriend said something like: "do I look like page 6" a gossipie NYC happenings page.
That I totally missed the first time viewing.
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Post by trisha on Mar 27, 2004 9:14:43 GMT -5
damn, I totally forgot about Stray lastnight. I would still have watched Touching Evil, but I would have taped Stray as it is one that I don't have.... Oh well, it will rerun again. I did catch the Page 6 line the first time because it's been used before on Original Flavor. The part I wanted to see again was Bishop scrunching her toes in her shoes That look on her face was priceless.
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Post by missymagoshi on Jan 22, 2005 22:06:30 GMT -5
I just caught the rerun. I have to say I really like this episode a lot, despite it being a "Bishop" episode. The guy who played Jerome was so compelling. At the end I found myself filled with compassion for him, even though he was a cold blooded murderer.
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Post by Patcat on Jan 22, 2005 23:53:45 GMT -5
I know I've complained about this episode being rerun so often, but I must admit it's an extremely well done episode. All it lacks is Eames' presence and few of her snarky comments.
Patcat
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Post by missymagoshi on Jan 24, 2005 23:43:56 GMT -5
I think the thing about this episode that stays with me is the reality factor. It just felt really real.
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Post by Patcat on Jan 25, 2005 9:28:58 GMT -5
It's an episode that easily could have been called WASTE--there's the waste of the two policemen's lives, and the waste of the two criminals' lives. Jerome particularly seems to have gifts that could have, as Goren notes, made him an engineer or scientist.
It's also an episode that doesn't let the viewer forget the victims of the crime, something that I think occasionally happens in LOCI.
Patcat
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Post by missymagoshi on Jan 25, 2005 11:10:38 GMT -5
Absolutely. That's what I meant by the reality factor. It brought about a real emotional response from me. Also another thing I liked was seeing them as cops in their uniforms. Goren was dashing.
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Post by susan1212 on Mar 20, 2008 20:09:18 GMT -5
Watched this again tonight. I received a phone call towards the end of the show and muted the sound while still being able to see the screen. When the scene came on where Robert walks out in his uniform, my heart stopped and I gasped! The phone caller asked me "What happened?" I couldn't tell her.
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Post by Summerfield on Mar 20, 2008 20:21:16 GMT -5
To me, "Stray" is the epitome of what the early years of CI was all about. And I think Bishop and Goren hit their stride in this one. Believable crime, motive and aria. Very entertaining.
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Post by diablodeblanco on Mar 20, 2008 23:45:01 GMT -5
Couple of things stuck in my mind, swiss cheese that it is. The first one is when Goren and Bishop are in the woods looking at the area where the killer waited and drew his little map. Bishop walked over and very quickly gave the site a cursory look and left. Goren quietly knelt down and studied the drawing in the dirt. Then looked around himself and I think he was imagining what he would have done that night of the killing, putting himself in the killer's body.
The second scene is when they are searching the money room. Bishop quickly enters the bathroom and again a cursory look. Goren quietly assays the room and then finds the window tool. He took his time and was thorough. It paid off. The difference in the investigative style was glaring. Age and experience......or just someone being a better detective. Made me appreciate the team work Goren had with Eames.
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Post by Cassie on Mar 20, 2008 23:51:58 GMT -5
Its experience..... the difference between Goren and Bishop. this is the episode where, I noticed him as her mentor. At the very beginning, when Bishop is questioning the cops about their partner that was killed. Goren, cuts her off, and starts to talk to the cops. saying he was sorry, they lost their friend/partner, how many kids did he have.....and then he looks to her, as if he is saying...."ok, now you can ask them the important stuff"
I love this episode.... I walked in tonight, and saw Goren, Bishop and Deakins wearing their blues, walking out of the squad room....and I was like....bummer... I missed it
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Post by susan1212 on Mar 21, 2008 7:02:52 GMT -5
Couple of things stuck in my mind, swiss cheese that it is. The first one is when Goren and Bishop are in the woods looking at the area where the killer waited and drew his little map. Bishop walked over and very quickly gave the site a cursory look and left. Goren quietly knelt down and studied the drawing in the dirt. Then looked around himself and I think he was imagining what he would have done that night of the killing, putting himself in the killer's body. The second scene is when they are searching the money room. Bishop quickly enters the bathroom and again a cursory look. Goren quietly assays the room and then finds the window tool. He took his time and was thorough. It paid off. The difference in the investigative style was glaring. Age and experience......or just someone being a better detective. Made me appreciate the team work Goren had with Eames. Your remarks above and Cassie's got me to thinking about Goren as a teacher. Wouldn't he be a wonderful teacher at the Police Academy? They would learn the importance of studying the details of each case and how the smallest detail can be the key to unlocking the truth. I think he would enjoy it too. He does love to impart his knowledge to others and he is patient, kind, caring and compassionate - qualities that I find honorable in any profession, but especially teaching. But he would probably miss solving real cases. Too bad he couldn't do both. Maybe he could be cloned. Oh God...what a thought. That could lead to another whole thread! ;D
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Post by Patcat on Mar 21, 2008 9:06:03 GMT -5
I think one of the difficulties in the Bishop/Goren relationship was that Goren had to take on some of the aspects of Eames' role. Had Eames been on this case, she would've been the one talking to the cops about their dead colleagues' lives. Goren would've been listening.
I'm not anti-Bishop, but she does appear inexperienced at times for Major Case.
Patcat
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Post by diablodeblanco on Mar 21, 2008 9:06:39 GMT -5
Its experience..... the difference between Goren and Bishop. this is the episode where, I noticed him as her mentor. At the very beginning, when Bishop is questioning the cops about their partner that was killed. Goren, cuts her off, and starts to talk to the cops. saying he was sorry, they lost their friend/partner, how many kids did he have.....and then he looks to her, as if he is saying...."ok, now you can ask them the important stuff" I love this episode.... I walked in tonight, and saw Goren, Bishop and Deakins wearing their blues, walking out of the squad room....and I was like....bummer... I missed it He did take the place as her mentor not merely a temporary partner. When he cut her questioning off and expressed his concern and empathy for the fallen officers he used that as a lesson for Bishop....to show her we must never forget we are dealing with people and people have feelings and are deserving of our respect. But we must also solve the case so we talk about that too. By being thoughful and caring, people are more prone to open up with a minute or insignificant detail that later keeps the investigation going in the right direction. Goren's empathy was in sharp contrast to Bishop's emotionless actions.
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Post by diablodeblanco on Mar 21, 2008 9:11:52 GMT -5
I think one of the difficulties in the Bishop/Goren relationship was that Goren had to take on some of the aspects of Eames' role. Had Eames been on this case, she would've been the one talking to the cops about their dead colleagues' lives. Goren would've been listening. I'm not anti-Bishop, but she does appear inexperienced at times for Major Case. Patcat I agree....her inexperience was difficult for Goren because he did rely on Eames to handle certain aspects of the team. As if their approach was unspoken and well executed. He had to pull double duty in this one and it showed. Goren and Eames work smoothly together.....Goren and Bishop....kind of herky jerky.
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