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Post by Kahlia on May 12, 2004 18:55:50 GMT -5
In Australia we have recently viewed The Gift.
(Yes, Australia is finally able to see season three!!)
I really enjoyed this episode, the way that the whole episode was put together.
Quote: "If she said Crabcakes he would have said Crawling Babies." (Eames).
(Sorry i am really bad with names) The actor who played the girlfriend played the part very well.
I don't really have much more to say than i liked it!
I'm never good with anaylsis'...
-Kahlia
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Post by Metella on May 12, 2004 19:45:15 GMT -5
This was a really good one I thought for my main reason that the bad guy really seemed to love his girlfriend - he was going to sacrafice a chance to get away to make sure she was taken care of ......
She seemed just silly to me.
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Post by trisha on May 13, 2004 8:05:31 GMT -5
It's been quite a while since I've seen this one, but from what I recall, I liked it very much.
The boyfriend going away for his girl ... yeah, but if he really loved her, wouldn't he have taken her to a hospital and got her on some meds? The seizures could have really hurt her.
My one nitpick was Eames throw away line about morning sickness (which looked like it had been dubbed over a different line). It's just totally out of character for her to show weakness, especially in front of suspects. It was unnecessary as a plot device, as well, because Eames was obviously pregnant at this point.
I recall that a few others had a hard time with the night light giving the mother away. What about you, Kahlia, and the rest of you Aussies? Did you find that part believable?
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Post by Patcat on May 13, 2004 10:28:26 GMT -5
Re medicine for the girlfriend:
During the interrogation scene the boyfriend tells Goren that "she can't hack the meds," and that the last time the boyfriend got out of jail he found the girl living under a bridge.
It's this care for the girl that makes the boyfriend a compelling figure. There's no question he's capable of horrible things, but he also really loves this girl. He not only doesn't dump her, but looks for her. When the game is finally up, his greatest concern is for her, not for himself. And one major part of the con game seems to be to validate her belief that she has visions. I don't want to paint him as some white knight, but he does have this good side. And he's very well acted by Bobby Carnavale (sp?)
There's been tremendous strides in the treatment of epilepsy in recent years, but some of the medicines are still pretty brutal. A friend of mine has a cousin who suffers from a particularly awful form. He's a bright, sweet kid (about 19, I think), but he can have several seizures a day without medication. But the only effective medications leave him in a zombie state.
Pat (sorry for the long post)
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Post by Patcat on May 13, 2004 10:33:19 GMT -5
I especially like the interrogation scene in this episode--Carnavale seems to have the chops to work with D'Onofrio. I also like the moment when Goren tells the boyfriend that the girlfriend will be placed in a group home near the prison. Carver says something along the lines of "Yes, we can work on that", and Goren stands up and says, with a great deal of conviction, to the boyfriend and Carver, "We'll make that happen." And Carver agrees. It's a small exchange, but very well done by Mr. D'Onofrio and Mr. Vance.
Pat
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Post by Kate on May 14, 2004 0:36:12 GMT -5
I missed some scenes of this episode but what I saw I really enjoyed it. My video recorder is not working for some reason, so couldn't tape the episode to re-watch.  I agree with you Trisha, I thought Eames comment was very strange and not liker her at all, especially when they were interviewing the boyfriend. If she had said it while in Deakins office or at her desk, I wouldn't have thought twice about it. Unfortunately, I missed the first two episodes as I have been away for the last 4 weeks on my honeymoon. Kate  |
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Post by Observer2 on May 15, 2004 1:05:45 GMT -5
Kate, congratulations on the honeymoon! (and presumably wedding?)  Patcat, I really liked the scene about the group home, as well... but you’re not giving Carver his due. Goren seemed very caught off guard, and didn’t immediately come up with a solution. It was Carver who said something like, ‘We’ll see if we can get her into a group home nearby.’<br> When Goren stood up he was trying to reassure the boyfriend (the words he said) at the same time that he was asking Carver to be willing to make a definite commitment (the tone and body language he used). Carver agreed – no small matter, since such group homes are usually full with long waiting lists. He may well have to pull strings and cash in favors. But he agreed – in part, I think, because of the situation, but also, at least in part, because it was so important to Goren. The situation in The Faithful was a bigger deal, but this reminded me of it just a bit. It was also a nice demonstration of Goren actually asking Carver for something, as opposed to his little performance in Conscience. |
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Post by Kahlia on May 15, 2004 4:40:01 GMT -5
Trisha,
When i was watching the episode, the Eames line went over my head, i wasn't nothered with it at all.
But when thinking about it, i do believe that it wouldn't be something that Eames would say, she has too much pride to admit that she has to sit down when interviewing a suspect. Thats what i think anyways.
Next week us Aussies get But Not Forgotten.... is this the last ep that Eames is in for a while?
-Kahlia
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Post by Patcat on May 16, 2004 0:31:01 GMT -5
Observer2;
You're right--it was Carver who presented the group home idea. Goren was still trying to process the boyfriend's concern for his girlfriend. Another point in the Carver/Goren relationship.
Patcat
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