1:07 - "Poison" 2001-11-11

[liz99]

I was trying to remember how they caught this woman who was poisoning the pain killer pills. Can anyone remember? I've been wracking my brain because I remember the scene when they arrested her but I forgot what proof they had since they didn't find the poison in her house.

[spankypup]

Goren had the women's mother arrested for the murders, and when the baby clothes franchise found out, they used the morales contract to nullify the daughters contract until the mother was acquitted. She panicked, and ran to the detectives and whined that her mom was innocent. They then tricked her into mailing them evidence that the real killer was still out there.

I really did love when they arrested her and she wouldn't let go of the counter, and the detectives had to peel her fingers away.

[Patcat]

The villain in this episode is, to me, one of the most heartless in the LOCI world. (Not the smartest, mind you--Goren plays her like a Stradivarius.) Perfectly willing to kill people she doesn't know and does know--to open a clothing store. For children. Just baffles me.

Patcat

[Techguy]

On the thread about what makes a great CI episode, I mentioned Det. Goren nailing loathsome villains, and this woman is near the top of the list in that category. If I remember details from this episode correctly, the woman was not abused or mistreated by the husband she murdered; the woman tells her mother that he treated her very well, which makes the murder all the more revolting.

[liz99]

I forgot about the envelope. Not the strongest piece of evidence but that is not unusual in the L&O:CI world. I'm surprised the U.S. Postal Service would allow them to go through a mailbox and recover the envelope.

Thanks, everyone, for the replies.

[LOCIfan]

Trudy is one of the most amoral, heartless villains in the LOCI universe. She is narcissistic greed personified in the person of this ridiculous, absurd woman. I LOVE that she wants to open a baby clothes boutique. Not only does she not have a maternal bone in her body, she seems to see the clothes as doll clothes, which is appropriate, considering that she doesn't seem to view others as human beings but as obstacles or things to be manipulated to her own ends.

[js]

Good analysis of Trudy Pomeranski, LOCIFan. Given her interest in only herself, I'm somewhat surprised that she was concerned that her mom was arrested for a crime the she, mom, had not done. Unless the detectives could prove otherwise, Trudy might have gotten off completley, and since the authorities were sure that the mom hadn't done the crime, they would have had to find a way to release her.

About the post office, I'm guessing that the P.O. is cooperative with law enforecment, and the P.O. could have a representative there to be sure no other mail was disturbed.

[liz99]

The reason she cared about her mom being charged with the crime is because the baby clothes franchise people were going to take away her franchise rights because of it (morals clause). She needed her mom to be freed if she wanted to keep her boutique. Again, it was all about her, not her mother.

[js]

Of course! I should have made that connection. Guess my brain was on vacation. Trudy was in it for herself again - get Mom off the hook so the baby clothes people wouldn't pull her out of the program.

[LOCIfan]

Exactly. She didn't care about whether or not her mom went to jail for a crime she didn't commit, she was only concerned about the morals clause in her franchise agreement, that could've stopped her from opening the boutique. A totally selfish motive for trying to clear her mother's name. Trudy was a real piece of work. Such a pure example of extreme, amoral narcissism!

[rosemary]

Trudy was a creep. She didn't seem to care for anybody else than herself, although she would also fake sympathy. I think the next time I enter a baby clothes store, I'll be feeling even worse. The last time I was a customer in such a store I felt strange, anyway. It was nearly 10 years ago. I had to shop for a present, and I entered the store that had opened only recently. The store's name was "Ringworm" (no joke) with the small depiction of a real worm forming a life preserver. "Ringworm: 0-6 years". I was surprised to find out that the store owner was a male. He asked me how old the child was. "Couple of weeks" I said. Then he showed me baby articles I never knew to exist. "This is a little…exuberant..." I said, searching for a better expression. The man looked at his fingertips. "Well, we also have simple baggies." But I thought that mother most likely already has some baggies. "Maybe just a little cap" I said. -- "Which color? Or pattern? The paisley pattern is 'le dernier cri'..." -- "Well…he cannot see it if he's wearing it." (Now I'm thinking that it's maybe me who's got a problem with baby clothes.) I chose a white one with blue stripes. And I told him to gift-wrap it, because my wrapping techniques are challenged. If I have to wrap a gift, there are three possibilities: Roll it into a ball and tie tape all round it, roll it into a tube tied at both ends, so it looks like a sausage, or put it in a nice shoe box...

[Cassie]

ok...what are "baggies", diapers?

oh and I wrap like you ;D

[rosemary]

It's a diminutive we've made up ourselves, a small bag (bag-y) you can put a baby (already in diapers) in. It can be tied together with a string knotted to it. If the baby wears a baggie it can move his legs freely, contrasted to the more traditional clothes.

[LOCIfan]

LOL. Ringworm??? Personally, I'd have trouble shopping for anything baby-related in a shop called Ringworm!!!!!

[gorensdoppelganger]

I don't know if this was pointed out already in the Death Roe episode guide or in this thread before, but the woman who lost her husband to a Code Blue that Goren and Eames interviewed on the park bench, is the same actor who played the wife of the business partner to the chef (he raped her over the butcher block table).