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Post by Metella on Nov 3, 2006 14:04:07 GMT -5
I wasn't so interested in this story until I watched HER interview on NBC .....
I just kinda, rolled my eyes and thought the boy will have a hard physical life if he stays and he will have a hard mental life if he goes. Whatever & best of luck to all.....
I agree that there was too much hub-ub about this; as she said - this was front page news for almost 2 weeks. However, she thinks most of the uproar is because she is white and the boy is black. Now, I'll say that she may be truthful when she says someone on the street confronted her with this ..... but for myself it never crossed my mind and I don't think our mondo liberal media feels that way.
If my theories are correct & this is NOT why the media when nuts; anyone here care to speculate on why the media nearly demonized her over this?
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Post by SarahIvy on Nov 3, 2006 14:32:08 GMT -5
Hmmm, well I suspect it has a bit to do with the idea of a wealthy white woman swooping into a small poor black village and plucking a baby away from it's culture.
Now, I personally put no stock in that. And it's a rather hard thing to talk about in terms of wanting to try and be PC. But from some things I have read about this, that is where some of the negative reaction seems to stem from. Not, as Madonna has said, in the simple fact that she is white and the boy is black and some bigots think mixed race families are bad.
There seems to be a feeling that instead of taking the boy from his culture, she should have just helped improve his life there. But of course now she has flat out said that she offered to just give the father money to help him raise his son and the father refused. My suspicion would be that the father is perhaps not actually up for raising the boy on his own with no mother around....regardless of cash. That's why he put the boy in the orphanage in the first place.
The whole thing is a little tricky. In so many countries a lot of children who are not truly orphans are put into orphanages simply because the parents can't support them.
So the question becomes, what is the right course of action? Is it better to give aide to the communities to help reunite the families, or is it acceptible to adopt the children?
Personally, I think adoption is fine, anything that improves the life of the child and gives them a chance in the world. Particularly in Madonna's case. She was there doing humanitarian work (didn't she build a big school or some sort of huge new facility for children?), and connected with a child already in an orphanage.
And on a truly simplistic level? I think the media and general public is just weirdly fascinated with the seemingly current trend of celebs adopting foreign babies, simple as that.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Nov 3, 2006 21:17:07 GMT -5
I find it peculiar that Angelina can adopt an Asian child and and a African child (from Africa as well) but when Madonna does it, sahe's the devil reincarnate. I am no fan of Madonna but this is double standrard is peculiar.
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Post by Leticia on Nov 5, 2006 16:31:39 GMT -5
I was surprised by the hubbub, and only paid attention briefly when I heard that another couple were already planning to adopt the child? Is that right?
The Angelina double standard is indeed the most annoying thing about the story. I suppose people see her as a bit eccentric and so overlook it wheras Madonna already has children and is less generally associated with charity work in third world countries. I can't quite fathom it myself. Unless it's because she herself is from a mixed background (isn't she? Eastern European, Canadian and Native American or some such thing?). Either way the blatant hypocrisy irks me.
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Post by Metella on Nov 6, 2006 7:28:52 GMT -5
I don't even feel it is hypocrisy - it is just illogical and kinda insane. There was no real rhyme or reason for all the negative attention unless it wanted to branch out to all out of country adoptions. Oh well. Hope David turns out better than I foresee. I do agree that doing thing to change the patterns in these countries - is a much better way to help more humans. However my views on what helps is vastly different than others. Still - teach a man to fish .....
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Post by rangerhm on Nov 6, 2006 11:29:36 GMT -5
Part of the problem was that the law was changed so that she could adopt the child. Prior to Madonna adopting David, Malowi did not allow foreigners to adopt. They changed the law just for her. She has given lots of money to the country for many years and people felt that she had the law changed because of that and therefore she used her position to influence the government. Others who have adopted babies from foreign countries have done so from countries that allow foreigners to adopt.
It was also never reported in the media that she offered to just give the father money to keep the child in the country. She revealed that in the interviews she has been giving.
We can only hope the child will be OK physically and mentally. It would be best if the media would just leave them alone.
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Post by sarahlee on Nov 6, 2006 11:31:34 GMT -5
My first reaction to all this was annoyance--another random newsbit foisted on me in the guise of information, ( I resent how much entertainment gossip I know simply because it's in the news where the "real stuff" I want to know/hear about, is). Then I noticed how much I kept hearing about this (to me) non-story. My next reaction was "publicity stunt!"; we all know how brilliant Madonna is with keeping herself "current" and in the public eye by being controversial. I hope, for the boy's sake, that this is not true, but I'm pretty cynical where Hollyweird is concerned. And don't get me started on Bradgelina--I wish I didn't know anything about that!
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Post by maherjunkie on Nov 11, 2006 14:06:03 GMT -5
I was surprised by the hubbub, and only paid attention briefly when I heard that another couple were already planning to adopt the child? Is that right? The Angelina double standard is indeed the most annoying thing about the story. I suppose people see her as a bit eccentric and so overlook it wheras Madonna already has children and is less generally associated with charity work in third world countries. I can't quite fathom it myself. Unless it's because she herself is from a mixed background (isn't she? Eastern European, Canadian and Native American or some such thing?). Either way the blatant hypocrisy irks me. Just a regular Italian-American..
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Post by Sirenna on Nov 11, 2006 20:21:30 GMT -5
best of luck to Madonna and David.
They seem to love each other.
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