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Post by hobo_hobisho on Apr 22, 2004 0:41:14 GMT -5
About the Eames/Goren partnership - I don't feel like their relationship is strained since her return. I feel like Goren's been a little under the weather and perhaps Eames is a bit on edge (maybe she is having physical or emotional problems regarding her childbirth). I think Goren's probably glad to have her back.
I've noticed Eames is getting more aggressive - she has a bigger part. I'm really glad for that fact. Hopefully we'll get to see a little more character development for her.
With Eames having more of a role in the detective work, I think their relationship will shift a little, but ultimately remain strong. Perhaps it will even get stronger? Time will tell.
If there was a Goren/Eames 'rumble' I for one would love to see that! I think a fight would just strengthen their bond. Sometimes having an all-out 'cards on the table' shouting match can make a relationship better.
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Post by trisha on Apr 22, 2004 8:11:40 GMT -5
I don't know if I want to see them argue, but along those lines, there was the scene in The Third Horseman where she demanded to know where he really stood on abortion. She's got no problem standing up to him, and he was very genuine with his concern for her feelings, even if he *may* have given her the answer she wanted to hear instead of how he really feels.
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Post by barb on Sept 25, 2005 9:41:08 GMT -5
hobo_hobisho posted i would go along with what she has said about the relationship between Eames and Goren and that the relationship will get better
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Post by scififan01 on Oct 16, 2005 15:37:55 GMT -5
What's everyone's take on Goren freaking out in 'F.P.S'? I'm really confused about what the writers were trying to tell us. I guess I'm just used to too many years of being messed around with by Chris Carter and the Stargate writers and I'm reading too much into Goren's mini emotional crisis. The only things I can come up with are:
1) Goren needs to have a partner there who understands how he works and not a little shrew (sorry, you can probably tell I thought that Bishop was very weird!) in order to function normally 2) Said shrew was annoying him so much that he was freaking out about having to put up with her for the forseeable future 3) Goren's madly in love with Eames and can't live without her and when Goren was going on about the guy "yearning" for his partner he was really talking about himself in third person
I'd never considered that the third option would ever exist until I saw FPS. Now I'm v. confused and fence-sitting on the whole Goren/Eames shipper pairing debate. Are they? Aren't they? Are the writers just screwing with our heads like Goren does with his suspects? Am I reading too much into something that's not there? Would anyone who's seen more episodes that I have like to explain the situation to me?
Signed: One very confused CI fan!
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Post by scififan01 on Oct 16, 2005 15:44:35 GMT -5
he was very genuine with his concern for her feelings, even if he * may* have given her the answer she wanted to hear instead of how he really feels. - do you really think that Goren would do that? I don't know if I would believe that he would ever lie just to save someone's feelings, especially his partner's. From what I've seen of SVU the relationship between partners in the PD has to be based on nothing if not complete honesty from both sides.
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Post by scififan01 on Oct 16, 2005 15:52:17 GMT -5
If there was a Goren/Eames 'rumble' I for one would love to see that! I think a fight would just strengthen their bond. Sometimes having an all-out 'cards on the table' shouting match can make a relationship better. It appears to work for Benson and Stabler! They seem to argue all the time and it doesn't seem to have weakened their partnership!
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Post by trisha on Oct 17, 2005 8:12:41 GMT -5
he was very genuine with his concern for her feelings, even if he * may* have given her the answer she wanted to hear instead of how he really feels. - do you really think that Goren would do that? I don't know if I would believe that he would ever lie just to save someone's feelings, especially his partner's. From what I've seen of SVU the relationship between partners in the PD has to be based on nothing if not complete honesty from both sides. I do think that he would lie to Eames if he thought it would save her from hurt feelings, and especially if it would save them from having an argument about something she obviously feels so strongly about. No one likes confrontation with friends, and with Goren, it seems he'd rather not deal with confrontation at all unless the person on the other side has shown they deserve a good ass kicking. But, he's nothing like Stabler. He's tender in his disagreements with Eames, and he uses logic, not emotion, and definitely not loyalty, to sway her.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Oct 17, 2005 11:00:18 GMT -5
What's everyone's take on Goren freaking out in 'F.P.S'? Goren threw the paper because he realized the hard way he had been played by the the real killer. The killer researched Goren's court appearance history and learned he had a "prediliction for notcing patterns" and that Goren had a hang up about deadbeat dads. Since Bishop did not know Goren personally, she could not point out that Goren was steaming ahead in the wrong direction- while Eames would have known immediately and steered him the correct way. Goren was reacting to the fact that Eames wasn't there to steer him the right way. I loved this scene, it showed how important Eames is not only to Goren as a person but, to the entirety of CI. It showed the depth of Goren and Eames' relationship.
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