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Post by maherjunkie on Dec 15, 2008 11:30:20 GMT -5
The DVD signing was not that long ago. I suspect he did this for his sister more than anything though he does benefit from it too. VDO and Dick Wolf were established before CI so I cannot imagine that is a sore spot between them. He has promoted past films but the current two have not been released yet. I admire that he sticks to his privacy instead of publicity.
I agree Lily M, I think seasons 6-7 have more to them.
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Post by fuzzytweetie on Dec 15, 2008 11:39:33 GMT -5
I'm afraid I must agree with DB. . . P.S. Please -- no lectures about loyalty. Loyalty cuts both ways as far as I'm concerned. In his restaurant promotions I see a VDO (however charming) using fans while failing to do what's necessary to stay sharp and interesting for (many of) them. It's the fans' perogative as to why they admire him...........
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Post by DonnaJo on Dec 15, 2008 11:42:05 GMT -5
Sorry DJ, but i don`t think it appropriate to blurt out those accusations of Vincent`s personal life. We don`t know anything about the reason for the separation/divorce between Carin and Vincent. Certainly not gossip/rumors from the net to justify that reasoning, only Vincent and Carin know that very personal part of their life I did not "blurt out" anything. I simply mentioned a few rumors that were out & about a few years ago. Rumors, not accusations. Most people on this site are already aware of them. What is considered "appropriate" is up to our Moderaters. I have faith that they will edit where they feel it is necessary.
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Post by fuzzytweetie on Dec 15, 2008 12:06:28 GMT -5
I must agree with caitlen...............RUMORS.......only Mr. and Mrs. D'Onofrio know the truth.
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Post by annabelleleigh on Dec 15, 2008 17:05:00 GMT -5
Please stop picking on DJ. She simply restated in what I perceive as the kindliest way some strong (and not undocumented) rumors about VDO's (reformed) bad boy behavior.
And really, given the increasingly cheap and easy-to-use technologies available, no one's life is all that private anymore. So "only Mr. and Mrs. D'Onofrio know" would seem to be a tad naive.
AL
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Post by maherjunkie on Dec 15, 2008 21:08:42 GMT -5
Where is this documentation? You make a good point I'm just curious.
You can never really know what goes on between two people, no matter what the Enquirer would have you believe.
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Post by dragonsback on Dec 16, 2008 6:02:04 GMT -5
Accusations. DonnaJ is well known for those. I must be thinking of a different DonnaJ when I associate her with kindness, and caring, and collegiate good will. As for Annabelleleigh, why it's a well-known fact that all her first-class information comes from the National Enquirer.
VDO is hot, hot hot, The various sites that ascribe to this fandrool tell me so. But of course he doesn't have sex - a lot of it - outside of marriage because that's ewwww. Also, there is no documentation - where are the transcripts, the photos, the names , the addresses?
Well, I tell you, I don't believe for one minute that the sightings of VDO with other ladies is true. Not in the islands, not on a beach in Oz. Nor that the Chelsea Piers buzz that he has a dominatrix in the wings is anything but scurrilous showbiz talk. Even though his backstory is a bit uneven, he really is just a family guy. Candy Day at his house, anyone?
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Post by caitlen on Dec 16, 2008 7:29:09 GMT -5
Please stop picking on DJ. She simply restated in what I perceive as the kindliest way some strong (and not undocumented) rumors about VDO's (reformed) bad boy behavior. And really, given the increasingly cheap and easy-to-use technologies available, no one's life is all that private anymore. So "only Mr. and Mrs. D'Onofrio know" would seem to be a tad naive. AL Firstly i am not picking on DJ, thats a silly thing to say. I simply responded to her post, which IS speaking about Vincent`s "personal" life, she chose to say what she said herself. Nowhere did Vincent ever make a public statement in 2003 that he and Carin had separated, or for what reason. He has never made his personal life public, it was the net trolls that love a scoop, that put the so called rumors out there. If a celebrity goes public with their private life, that is their choice, they leave themselves open to discussion, Vincent however didn`t, so i am not, as you put it, naive.! Anything that is said on Vincent`s personal life is gossip by gossipers, its all it amounts to So if there is STRONG and not undocumented rumors that hold up, i would love to see it. All the celebs that get caught by the paparazzi is proof, i am yet to see Vincent in that same light. Oh yes lots of eager hungry trolls gossiping about anything and everything they could get their tongues around at the time. All they did was satisfy their own thirst for what they made up and spat out on the net on Vincent. There is an old saying, "seeing is believing" and so far, we haven`t seen. So unless something like photos or actual documented proof has come to light, i sit on my original post, no need to spread accusations about Vincent`s personal life, restated or not! Whether it be first hand, second hand or what, its a choice by anybody to say or repeat rumors, it doesn`t excuse a persons choice for doing it, by saying in their defense it is "restated". Things we see him do in everyday life can be, things that are that personal for any couple, should be off limits that is just common respect
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Post by DonnaJo on Dec 16, 2008 7:54:25 GMT -5
**Sigh** I refuse to go back & forth on this with you, caitlen. I could drudge up several interviews from Oz around 2003-2004 where Vincent refers to himself as a "single guy."They are here on site. But honestly, it's not worth my time. Is there a photo of VDO holding up his separation agreement? No, I suppose not. If that's what you need to believe that the man was estranged from his wife...well.... Back on topic. I remember reading on The Reel that a few of the fans from there were planning to attend the show. That would certainly explain the cat calls. I haven' had a chance yet to check, The Reel has been closed until today.
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Post by dragonsback on Dec 16, 2008 8:48:49 GMT -5
Annoyed now. Hands up, everyone who thinks that Donna and Annabelle are silly. That's what I thought. I don't think I've ever seen "silly" used so often as to make it the second most commonly used word in the English language."Silly" is such a priggish word. Giddy, too. Am I getting close, Caitlen?
Call it a stretch, but when D'Onofrio moved out of the apartment and declared himself single, that seemed to nail the separation. And he slept around. Good for him (or the lucky ladies). What's the issue? Protective huffle-puffing about it is, well, silly. I suspect more deeply embarrassing to VDO than being called a man about town are the fans and the fan sites that make one's flesh crawl with their antique fantasies.
I expect the Mods to move in any time now, and I hope they do.
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Post by annabelleleigh on Dec 16, 2008 12:02:42 GMT -5
1. Vincent D'Onofrio and Carin van der Donk filed for legal separation in 2004 using the "irreconcible differences" clause available in the New York State divorce laws. It's a public document. Any good reporter or researcher knows how to access those records. That was also about the time when VDO himself started referring in public statements to "my ex-wife."
2. VDO's behavior was observable to many of the hundreds of cast, crew and guest actors who work or worked with him on the CI set. I know some of them. They are not trolls -- nor, so far, IMO -- is any member of this site.
3. Let's leave the posting rules to the moderators.
AL
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Post by maherjunkie on Dec 16, 2008 12:37:46 GMT -5
Accusations. DonnaJ is well known for those. I must be thinking of a different DonnaJ when I associate her with kindness, and caring, and collegiate good will. As for Annabelleleigh, why it's a well-known fact that all her first-class information comes from the National Enquirer. VDO is hot, hot hot, The various sites that ascribe to this fandrool tell me so. But of course he doesn't have sex - a lot of it - outside of marriage because that's ewwww. Also, there is no documentation - where are the transcripts, the photos, the names , the addresses? Well, I tell you, I don't believe for one minute that the sightings of VDO with other ladies is true. Not in the islands, not on a beach in Oz. Nor that the Chelsea Piers buzz that he has a dominatrix in the wings is anything but scurrilous showbiz talk. Even though his backstory is a bit uneven, he really is just a family guy. Candy Day at his house, anyone? It was my understanding that the original assertion was that VDO stepped out on his wife thus leading to their separation. Asking for some sense of verification on that is not unreasonable, and was not an insult to AL. Yes, I hope the mods do step in.
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Post by Criminal Mastermind on Dec 16, 2008 21:17:49 GMT -5
We have always allowed rumors and speculation to be posted here as long as they are not malicious.
Also, disagreeing, asking for more information, or posting refuting evidence is perfectly fine. Disparaging or defaming the poster along with the information is not.
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Post by outerbankschick on Dec 16, 2008 22:08:12 GMT -5
Irreconcilible differences. I always love that one. It's not clear whether those "differences" happened as a result of his "stepping out" or not, and once the separation was in place, both were free to do as they chose. I can also see forgiving an indiscretion and I would hope that if there was "stepping out" before the separation, on either part, that the party in question has learned from that mistake and will not repeat it. Repeat offenders in matters of adultery deserve no more chances. One screw-up is all you get. Pun intended.
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Post by DonnaJo on Dec 17, 2008 7:09:08 GMT -5
We have always allowed rumors and speculation to be posted here as long as they are not malicious. Also, disagreeing, asking for more information, or posting refuting evidence is perfectly fine. Disparaging or defaming the poster along with the information is not. Thank you, CM. I agree with you wholeheartedly, Roberta. Whether the "rumors" are true or not, it takes two to make or break a marriage. I know - I've been married for 24 years. And I'm all for forgiveness if the offending party truly regrets his or her mistakes and resumes those wedding promises . Both seem to have done that. I wish them all the love & happiness in the world.
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