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Post by deathroe on Mar 11, 2009 21:29:31 GMT -5
Did they just reference the "Townsend" horse farm? Eeee [Edit: I think if we saw the show as a long-running race, S. Epatha Merkerson would come out the winner every time. Shoot--that scene at the "farmhouse" just broke my heart.]
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Post by romulanavatra3 on Mar 12, 2009 4:22:31 GMT -5
any spoliers i think over here we are about maybe one episode behind so any small spoilers would good not to much though.
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Post by trisha on Mar 12, 2009 15:26:21 GMT -5
Big Spoiler Warning Rom!!
I really liked this entire episode all the way up to the verdict, which wasn't even slightly believable to me.
Mr. Wall Street was not the victim here -- it was his mistress, who, aside from dating a married man, hadn't done anything wrong. Espeically nothing that warranted 8 hours of terror and death.
I can see a jury not wanting to pushish another average Joe for giving a greedy banker a bit of his own, but to let go the murder of an innocent just because she dated the guy?? I can't believe any jury would be that ignorant and callous.
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Post by DonnaJo on Mar 12, 2009 16:33:38 GMT -5
All in all, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Spoilers Ahead!! . . . . . . . . All I can say is Poor Cutter. He finally gets to deliver a beautiful, valid, reasonable summation, and the jury totally ignores it (and all reason) because they're pissed off at Not!Bernie Madoff. BTW, there were constant promo's of the pending Madoff court verdict. Best scene .......(as deathroe mentioned) Van Buren & Detectives taking those Harlem kids all the way to that dump of a farm to show them that their mentor was grossly exaggerating. So they wouldn't look like fools in court. I love Anita. Even though the group leader lied and was basically guilty, the scene where he's being led in handcuffs out of the center, and he's telling the kids to keep studying... keep their appointment....close up....displayed a man who truly cared for those kids. Too bad he was stupid & delusional.
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Post by trisha on Mar 12, 2009 17:23:26 GMT -5
... Too bad he was stupid & delusional. ... and a liar and a kidnapper --unless you believe that the girl really was in on it and got scared of the dark and/or supposed rats enough to jump out a two story window and run through Harlem in the wee hours and freezing cold with no phone, no money, and no shoes! I'm not saying the guy was complete scum, but he deserved a guilty verdict. I guess I just really hate it when it seems that everyone has lost sight of the victim
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Post by romulanavatra3 on Mar 13, 2009 5:01:59 GMT -5
okay Trisha thanks for the spoiler(you gave away the ending . but what was the gist of the case. I really like this season i think Jack is great as DA, hope he gets relected. and the stories have been solid and intresting and resonably fresh( not quite as rehashed as the last couple of season have been). also like cuter(dont always agree with him though dont always agree with Jack either). though i am not sure what to make of the new detective( replaceing Green only seen him a bit, he seems good but still havent decided what to make of him just yet).
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Post by annabelleleigh on Mar 14, 2009 11:36:40 GMT -5
Written by L&O veteran Richard Sweren and Christopher Ambrose who also collaborated brilliantly on this season's "By Perjury."
Did I ever love this one, even -- especially -- the jury nullification.
"Bailout" epitomizes the great purpose Law & Order serves for U.S. TV viewing public-at-large. When a (justifiably) angry citizenry can't get justice from real world authorities, at least we can count on L&O to hang 'em high.
And that, in a nutshell, is why America isn't ready for this longest-running crime drama to go out of business. NBC, please take note.
AL
About Christopher Ambrose: Before joining L&O in 2008 he wrote for "Bones" and "Judging Amy" among other series. Another first-rate Rene Balcer hire.
About Richard Sweren: IMO, his collaborations with Ambrose and Gina Gionfriddo have been among the best episodes from the mothership in recent memory. (I think I'm falling in love.)
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Post by ragincajun on Mar 14, 2009 12:09:34 GMT -5
I love Kevin Corrigan as an Actor, he does Drama and Comedy well, I used to watch him on Grounded for life. He was also in "Steal this Movie and Chelsea Walls" He did this part well as the "mentor" for these kids. But his motive was purely selfish, he needed to be needed. Almost like our Bobby Goren in away, and now that he is alone, I wonder how he will fill that need. I do believe they saw the "poor" rich man as the bad guy and ruled in that way. Which is so wrong. Kevin Corrigan
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Post by nomoreexcuses on Mar 14, 2009 14:10:54 GMT -5
This ep appeared to be a direct swipe at the CEO of AIG who took his salespeople to a fancy resort for a "retreat" after accepting a huge pile of taxpayer money. With the jury nullification I think the writers were saying that it's possible for our heroes in the DA's office to be right on the law but wrong on the morality.
I especially liked the last scene, with Cutter, McCoy and Rubirosa, when they discussed whether the verdict portended a future where the public will punish the CEOS who gambled away our life savings any way they can (I'm paraphrasing). It was exactly the right note to end on. It definitely got me wondering about that and I'm not sure yet whether I like or don't like the idea.
nme
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Post by DonnaJo on Mar 15, 2009 7:29:11 GMT -5
The make up of the jury looked like it might include quite a few New Yorkers who lost or were afraid of losing their homes, their jobs, their pensions or their savings because of the economy, which is basically in the crapper in New York. Still, the jury is supposed to put aside their emotions and look at the facts, which I thought were laid out very well by Mike Cutter. I can't help but think that McCoy would have been more successful, not just in this case but in some of the others. Is Cutter being written as a less effective ADA than McCoy? Will these losses make McCoy's road to winning the DA spot too bumpy?
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