digresser
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Post by digresser on Nov 1, 2005 19:12:54 GMT -5
Still relatively new to the boards, so please move this if it's in the wrong section.
According to my friends ,who are avid fans of the Mothership and are greatly amused by my love of Criminal Intent, last night on Comedy Central's Colbert Report the host, Stephen Colbert, talked for a bit about his love of Vincent D'Onofrio and that "tilting head thing" he does. Colbert also mentioned why he can't stop watching Criminal Intent.
Now, I can't confirm exactly what was said because I didn't see the episode, but I believe that it re-airs tonight (at least in the US) at 8:30pm EST. I just found the subject interesting and thought I'd give everyone a heads up if anyone is interested in watching the segment. It's so good to see some positive things about the show in the media (which the Colbert Report is...kinda), because lately it all seems to be about lagging ratings and whatnot. Hope you all enjoy!
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Post by digresser on Nov 1, 2005 20:37:16 GMT -5
Sigh. Just watched it. 'Twas not the most flattering. Colbert mocked the show's complicated plotlines and suggested it's written that way so that viewers would watch the reruns on TBS. Yes, that's right...TBS. And the "Mr. D'Onofrio, my hat's off to you, I love that thing you do with your head," comment by Colbert didn't sound quite sincere. Alas.
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Post by amberlight on Nov 1, 2005 23:42:49 GMT -5
I saw it last night. Although I am now media burned and ALWAYS feel like someone is taking a wack at the show or Vincent, I was not particularily offended by Colbert's "tongue and cheek" efforts at wit - more like nitwit. Maybe I look at it as sour grapes, harping on the show's convaluted scripting that makes you think. Most show have simple, predictable scripts which take no thought or imagination to follow which maybe more to Colbert's liking. Nothing to difficult for limited capacities. I do find myself re-watching to catch everything on CI, and yes, sometimes they do muck themselves too deep into details and drop some because of time constraints. Nevertheless, I enjoy the challange much more then being bored to death with predictable scripting.
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Post by trisha on Nov 1, 2005 23:54:47 GMT -5
I think you guys are taking this much too seriously and completely the wrong way. Steven Colbert is a fan of CI and VDO's. His joke was on the fact that he found L&O:CI to be the most serious/spell binding crime drama happening this week instead of the Rove/Libby indictments that had the 24 news channels, and the "news show" pundits that Colbert openly mocks each night, all a flutter. I thought it was a fun little nod from Colbert, much like his joke on TDS during the Michael Jackson trial when he said that the cops couldn't catch MJ because the only ones working for the department are the idiots that can't jobs working for Law & Order where they would have the honor of teaching a hotty like Annabella Sciorra how to frisk a perp. Rest assured, it's all good
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Post by Patcat on Nov 2, 2005 0:25:42 GMT -5
And remember that Mr. Colbert was the main guest star on THE SAINT episode.
Patcat
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Post by digresser on Nov 2, 2005 1:59:24 GMT -5
Actually, I did see the humor in Colbert's report . I was just disappointed that my friends had made it out to be flattering commentary and when it was in fact tongue-in-cheek. I am a bit frustrated at the many jabs the media seems to be making at Criminal Intent, but the Colbert Report is first and foremost comedy and I wouldn't expect or want anything else from them. "The most wasted of all days is one without laughter." ~ e.e. cummings
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Post by Patcat on Nov 2, 2005 9:41:54 GMT -5
There's sucker punches and there's jabs. Jabs are funny, harmless and probably entertaining the LOCI crew and cast. Things like Mr. Colbert's report and the MAD magazine parody of last December.
Sucker punches are nasty and vicious and the sort of thing the NEW YORK POST publishes.
Patcat
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Post by LOCIfan on Nov 3, 2005 1:18:31 GMT -5
Great distinction, Patcat. I agree that the Colbert report was a jab. I enjoyed it, anyway.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Nov 3, 2005 22:37:51 GMT -5
Missed the Colbert thingy! I haven't seen many jabs from the media (non-tabloid) lately but I have seen plenty of sucker punches! (Entertainment Weekly, TV Guide, Ausiello, etc.)
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Post by E. McCoy on Nov 7, 2005 18:04:37 GMT -5
I have to ask this, and I think this is where it can be asked. Why does it seem no media ever has anything nice to say about VDO? Every article I have ever read has never been nice at all. Is he really such a nasty person to work with? Sign me up...I'd work with him, problems or not...
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Post by noc on Nov 7, 2005 18:43:28 GMT -5
I believe there's been a lot of different angles on this. My opinion is that he doesn't play to the PR machine much and that probably isn't popular with entertainment journalists. New York gossip mags tend to be in the business of tearing everyone down. He has received a number of great reviews in various films, so that's positive.
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Post by Metella on Nov 8, 2005 10:49:52 GMT -5
I've seen small snipets that are "good" articles and some that are just reporting with no emotional wording ...... of course, being a fan site, I think the negatives definately get brought here to be picked over!
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Post by E. McCoy on Nov 8, 2005 23:24:59 GMT -5
True enough. I have to agree that VDO does not seem to be one of the "Hollywood Regulars" always in front of the cameras. I like that about him, too bad those of us on this board seem to be the only ones that do.
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Post by Observer2 on Nov 9, 2005 23:56:28 GMT -5
...Why does it seem no media ever has anything nice to say about VDO? Every article I have ever read has never been nice at all. Is he really such a nasty person to work with?... I don’t know about print media, but I’ve read plenty of on-line articles where actors who worked with him said very nice things about him. Plus, of course, there have been a couple of times when Renée Zellweger has said nice things about him on television... including thanking him in her Academy Award acceptance speech. So I would say that at least some actors don’t think he’s “really such a nasty person to work with.” Here’s a bit I found a while ago while googling Thumbsucker. It’s part of an on-line interview of Lou Taylor Pucci (who plays the lead in Thumbsucker) at www.dvdinmypants.com/features/05-05/ivew_ltp2.html(I’ve only copied the parts of the interview that refer to D’Onofrio) : How was D'Onofrio? After seeing Full Metal Jacket, I’d be so petrified of the man from his work in that alone. LTP: Not at all. He’s so great, so funny. He’s amazing. He’s out of his mind. (laughs) ...snip...
: On the flip side of that question, was anyone really great to you? LTP: Vincent D'Onofrio was like, the best person ever. To learn from, he was the best because he just taught you so much with anything that he did. He’s the most giving actor I ever met… he just gives you everything. He makes it about you, instead of about the two of you in the scene. It’s very strange, he does the most when he’s off camera and you’re on camera. That’s when he just makes you feel a certain way. And… he’s out of his mind. He can, if he wants to, manipulate you because he’s a big guy.
: Right, it seems like he could be real intimidating. LTP: He can be. He can be extremely intimidating. He could scare the shit out of you, with just a… look, and just freak you out because you thought it would never come out of him and you’re just like, “holy shit!”
He was really awesome to work with, so he's one who really stands out in my brain. But there were a lot of people that I really liked…
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Post by amberlight on Nov 10, 2005 17:32:09 GMT -5
I have an opinion on the sucker punches at Vincent from the media. I usually read anything that mentions his name. The last 1 1/2 years the punches have increased and I made an observation. The negative writers/critics are all male. The more positive write-ups are female. The latest, ex the Courier Journel - Lex. KY, suggested today that D'Onofrio just be dumped "annoying" characterizations as the reason. Noth should be made the lead. I keep ring binder notebook of the various articles, and it is filled with predominent male critics with issues on Vincent's take on Goren. Females, take a different angle and are usually complimentary. I say usually, only based on the articles I have.
My intent is not sexiest, but there maybe a difference between how males handle this character and females do. It is an issue of annoying, quirky, irratating vs. fascinating, intense and talented. This maybe a Mars vs Venus interpretation of one actors creation of the character Goren.
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