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Post by maherjunkie on Feb 19, 2006 10:54:00 GMT -5
Another hard to believe connect the dots plotline.
Okay he has a sister-does he resent a new baby that much?
And that brother and sister was a tad too Riff Raff and Magenta for me.
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Post by kawaiidragonfoe821 on Feb 20, 2006 10:19:04 GMT -5
It was the fact that the baby was fathered by his step father, he was afraid that once it came, his mother wouldn't love him anymore. Or, perhaps he was afraid of both him & his sister losing their mother's love? The step father had already sent them off to boarding school, thats what rich people do when they want to get kids out of the way, maybe Kenny thought he was being phased out? I liked this episode & it endures as one of my faves from season 1.
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Post by maherjunkie on Feb 20, 2006 16:21:21 GMT -5
Mine to, but I kept expecting them to do the Time Warp.
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Post by LOCIfan on Feb 20, 2006 18:25:33 GMT -5
I love this episode and think it's one of the best of all the seasons. I agree that Kenny was afraid that the new baby would make him and his sister obsolete remnants of her "old" family. He also didn't mean to kill his mom, but was only trying to get her to vomit up the baby (thinking like a kid). The horror of what actually happened to her is, I think, at the heart of the title of the episode. His entire life was defined by the misery of a child's impulsive mistake. He felt too guilty to confess to anyone (except the Russian woman), and that guilt seemed to drives his quasi-incestuous relationship with his sister. Very Greek. Also, if I had to pick just one, I'd say this is a quintessential SenGupta episode, and I enjoy watching it now even more after having read the interview she gave us last year.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Feb 20, 2006 22:22:46 GMT -5
Eames' reaction to Goren's ability to read Russian was a classic Goren and Eames moment.
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Post by Sirenna on Feb 20, 2006 23:16:21 GMT -5
Refresh my memory, NicoleMarie:
What did Eames say?
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Post by rosemary on Feb 21, 2006 9:07:49 GMT -5
Goren said: "She still was taking her notes in Russian." Eames replied: "Don't tell me, you read Russian, too." Goren doesn't reply and Eames merely says: "O brother!" But this short exchange is *not* my favorite. Admittedly, it was during my "I'm jealous of Goren" phase when I watched it, but nevertheless, I read (and speak) Russian too, and nobody has called me a genius, yet. And I think that's right, not only because I'm Polish, but because Russian is a language like every other language which can be learned and mastered... as for the plot, I fount it eerie, but somehow believable. I once heard about a boy who tried to put a pair of scissors into his mother's pregnant belly…
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Post by kawaiidragonfoe821 on Feb 22, 2006 19:00:54 GMT -5
Well I viewed season 1 as Goren & Eames kind of getting the feel for one another, like they were just partnered together or hadn't been partnered together for very long before we came into the picture. Remember in 'Wee Small Hrs' the letter the lawyer brought up was dated five years ago, which meant she wrote it sometime in season 1. I saw her exasperation as an 'I should've known' attitude lol.
rosemary>> For the record, I think that anyone who has a knowledge of a foreign language is a genius, I failed out of Spanish twice, talk about feeling dumb & I *am* a genius (well by default I' am, my IQ is 192).
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Post by NicoleMarie on Feb 22, 2006 22:52:48 GMT -5
I don't think Eames was annoyed with Goren or jealous of him. I thinhk she was still figuring him out and learning his many ablitities. I can speak Italian and Portuguese and a little bit of Hebrew but cannot read any of them. Damn it.  |
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Post by rosemary on Feb 23, 2006 4:54:25 GMT -5
These IQ tests are a weird thing. I've done several as a child, and each time my IQ was getting higher. In the end it was as high as the German abortion paragraph… As for the writing/reading thing: As for Italian and French, I can read them better than I speak them. And as far as Russian is concerned, I'm reading it at my own (Cyrillic) writing speed. I've once tried to learn Hebrew, but did not succeed. I presume it was because I didn't want it to learn it, actually. It was only for religious reasons I wanted to be able to read it.
NicoleMarie, maybe you got it wrong, I didn't think Eames was jealous of Goren, *I* was. Because all these trollish girls around me fancied him as a genius, totally ignoring me. But by now I think, we could be friends, if he existed IRL.
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Post by LOCIfan on Mar 20, 2006 3:38:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Goren and Eames worked well in this one. What I love about this one is that Goren and Eames really have to dig and dig and dig into Kenny's past in order to catch him. They just keep digging until they get all the way back to his childhood. There's something very extreme and very satisfying about that. Something deeply psychological.
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Post by rosemary on Mar 20, 2006 10:46:33 GMT -5
As for the title…it was red herring to me. When I read the Latin "Maledictus" I was thinking of something from the Western, Catholic world. But then we get to know that the victim is a Russian mobster princess…entirely different cultural associations. And, as LOCIfan pointed out, there are even references to Ancient Greece. What do you think of the title? Who is the cursed one? Kenny? I still have an alternative on mind. Maybe the Maledictus is an elliptic sentence, as in "Maledictus, qui" (cursed be the one who…)? And I'm also thinking about the antonyme: Benedictus. It is also the beginning (and the name) of a hymn from the gospel according to St. Luke. It is about two young boys, one of whom is already born (St. John the Baptist), while the other one (Jesus) is still in his mothers womb ...
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Post by LOCIfan on Mar 20, 2006 22:56:30 GMT -5
Very interesting about the title, rosemary! I think your take makes sense too, and can't help but think that the multiple meanings may have been deliberate on the part of Balcer and SenGupta. This is one of those titles that a viewer can sink her teeth into and come back to over and over again, finding new and deeper meanings... Good stuff.
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Post by spaniard on Apr 24, 2006 12:58:27 GMT -5
this is my first post about an episode so please have mercy  Why I start with this episode? well, I would like to give a deep psychological opinion about dramatic moments through childhood but I´m going to be more simple...they had to choose Mr Bean's lost brother? come on! I like this script very much, it´s a surprise after surprise because when you think he kills for the car incident they get you again but I think they´ve ruined a great script with this roadrunner voice, "don´t go to bed angry, martha... beep, beep!" But I still think it´s one of the best, maybe because I like the investigations that dig in the past. |
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Post by Patcat on Sept 4, 2006 1:05:40 GMT -5
This repeated on Bravo this evening, and I noted that near the beginning, when Goren was closely investigating the severed head, Eames asked him, "Lose a contact?" Now, of course, she likely meant this as a wisecrack, but is it possible Goren does wear contacts? Both Goren and Mr. D'Onofrio are at an age where glasses often become necessary, and perhaps one or both are wearing contacts?
'Course, I have to confess that I don't know if you can get contacts for prebyopia--my knowledge of glasses and contact is based on nearsightedness--myopia--but the thought struck me.
Patcat
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