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Post by Metella on Jul 14, 2008 17:52:17 GMT -5
Yes, I thought Chris Noth was looking just fine in the episode. Perhaps knowing he is leaving the angst ridden show has lightened his mood & it is showing.
The Wheeler character has to lighten up if it is to continue long term.
Ross still seems to be right on point. Still miss an ADA to add some extra depth to some cases. they could use an ADA as they did before - only brining in a court scene when it made sense ...so the writers could have more options with unfolding a story
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Post by Techguy on Jul 14, 2008 23:48:37 GMT -5
This episode had everything--sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll, punctuated by '80's MTV mainstay Joan Jett. I half expected the musical opener to be one of Jett's and The Blackhearts' classics such as "I Love Rock 'N' Roll" or "I Hate Myself For Loving You" but no matter. There was lots to like here anyway.
I liked this one a lot mostly because of what Metella pointed out, how lighthearted Chris Noth/Logan appeared. Maybe the weight of carrying half the show had begun to affect Mr. Noth, and so perhaps he wanted to exit before Logan's story turned into a soap opera the way Goren's has. Whatever the reason, Mr. Noth and Logan looked sharp, relaxed and knowing, and on top of his game.
I also liked what Outerbankschick pointed out, the twists and turns in the story, how starry-eyed Wheeler seemed regarding her idol Jordie Black, how her faith in him was ultimately rewarded. These quiet subtle moments told me a lot about Wheeler and her growth as a person and MCS detective. I believe she will be sufficiently seasoned by the time she gets a new partner after Logan's departure.
I can't say I knew from the beginning that Jordie was Milo's father . I didn't realize it until, ironically, the scene with Jordie in Milo's bedroom suggesting an impending molestation. I didn't think CI was going to be so obvious, so I made a leap of faith that Jordie's interest was fatherly and not lustful in nature. I was hoping that this episode wasn't going to go the salacious SVU route, and my faith was rewarded. I can't even begin to imagine how this episode would have been treated if it was a G/E, with Goren's absent father issues. Would it have been more emotionally powerful or just more melodramatic? Hard to say.
I also can't say I knew Jordie's wife Tara killed Sylvia, but I made another leap of faith, or perhaps a lucky guess since lately we've had a string of female killers, that Tara was the guilty one. This belief intensified once I suspected Jordie was Milo's real father, thereby giving Tara a real motive if she found out the truth.
Watching this episode I realized how much I am going to miss Mr. Noth and Mike Logan. Jeff Goldblum has some very big gumshoes to fill.
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Post by roots2rock on Jul 15, 2008 12:00:29 GMT -5
I must say I knew from the beginning that was his son. I thought it was the rocker that killed her, But it was the wife. Which was the woman from slither who looked like she got botox and a boob job. Best part of episode, previews for next week, Love goren with scruffy beard and plain clothes. woohooo. Again, I agree with you. We love Goren's beard. Yea! r2r
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Post by deathroe on Jul 16, 2008 18:15:59 GMT -5
It occurs to me on a very cursory reviewing that nobody commented on the Ross/Rodgers dynamic. She was pretty frosty with her "Captain" in the morgue and looked away while he was talking ...
Gosh, Leslie Hendrix is great.
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Post by outerbankschick on Jul 16, 2008 20:49:47 GMT -5
Funny, I thought it looked like Rodgers was actually looking in his direction, but with her eyes focused lower than his face, as though to avoid the eye contact. She almost looked like she was waiting for him to say something to her. Tension thick enough to slice through with a knife, too.
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Post by djcifan on Jul 17, 2008 4:40:23 GMT -5
I watched this episode again last night and thought it much better than I did on first viewing. I've always enjoyed those procedurals who hit several deadends before figuring out the truth, and the incorrect assumptions about the Jordie character were logical and advanced the plot nicely to the next part of the investigation, IMHO.
I have never particularly cared for Peter Pan, er, I mean Wheeler, but I think a better job could have been done supporting her fine instincts in this investigation. Not that I doubt Logan would have made fun of her affection for the old rocker LOL. But the immediate decisions about Jordie's propensities clearly didn't sit right with her, and her instincts were sound.
I also want to add, one of the reasons I have loved the classic L&O and LOCI is the fabulous range of actors they leverage from the NYC area. How many times have we even seen a judge with 4 lines that outperformed 2/3rds of the mediocre actors on other shows!!! Dana Wheeler-Nicholson was great here just as I thought she was in Slither; last week was Jessica Walther - watching these lesser known but fine actors is always a joy. And most importantly, they are getting work, hard to find when you're not Glenn Close or someone like that.
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Post by DonnaJo on Jul 17, 2008 6:52:52 GMT -5
It occurs to me on a very cursory reviewing that nobody commented on the Ross/Rodgers dynamic. She was pretty frosty with her "Captain" in the morgue and looked away while he was talking ... I was just able to watch this episode, and basically agree with the comments already posted . Yes, Noth looked great, except I do prefer his hair with a realistic bit of grey at the temples (the man is in his 50's). In this ep, his hair was as completely dark as my 20 year old son's. Deathroe, OB & all others who mentioned Ross/Rodgers....I definitely felt the chill. Actually, I thought Ross was b*tchy the entire episode. As Wheeler's mentor, he should have been more considerate & open minded about her gut feelings. He was totally closed, very snarky, a bit annoyed in general. Is this what happens when he is denied some Rodgers lovin' ;D
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Post by outerbankschick on Jul 17, 2008 19:47:33 GMT -5
That's it, Donnajo. He's pissy because Rodgers is mad at him. That has to be it! ;D
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Post by sarahlee on Jul 18, 2008 11:23:43 GMT -5
Or maybe he's tired of blondes... ;D
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Post by GorensGirl on Jul 18, 2008 15:14:01 GMT -5
This ep was only okay for me. I was getting really worried about how much they'd show in the scene where we were expecting to see the boy molested and am SO glad they didn't go there. And I'm glad he wasn't a pedophile after all.
I did enjoy Wheeler, but what was with her comment "They still have these things?" referring to VCRs? Lots of people still have them, including the police department. Logan had a good line at the crime scene too that I can't remember, and of course his comment about shooting lawyers.
It was nice to see the actor playing Jordie, Michael Massee, not playing a psycho for a change. He was a serial killer on Criminal Minds, a slimeball on Cold Case, and a killer on Shark recently, among other things.
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Post by tjara on Feb 3, 2009 4:17:27 GMT -5
Storytelling-wise I liked this ep. The idea that Mailo might be Jordie's son crossed my mind after a couple of minutes, but I dismissed it as "too soapy". I thought this ep was also nice in hitting a few dead ends and having nice twists and turns before the crime was solved. And I absolutely liked that Wheeler's gut feeling was right. I will have to rewatch to see the Ross-Rodgers dynamic, I did not see that... The last scene played out well, too. Not only was the camera-work great, but I liked that it ended on a rather "positive" note.
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