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Post by DonnaJo on Jun 28, 2009 21:13:31 GMT -5
What a fantastic episode. I was at the edge of my seat for the last half hour. Finally .....we get to see Bobby take care of Eames. He really showed how much he cares for her as his partner. That's all I'm saying for now. And when did Eames move to Forest Hills? And why was Bobby surprised by what she drinks? He should know by now. I loved it! ;D
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Post by annabelleleigh on Jun 28, 2009 21:23:39 GMT -5
Indeed DJ.
Another first-rate Michael J. Chernuchin script. I am swooning.
Will reserve other comments until after the episode plays in all time zones.
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Post by Moonbeam on Jun 28, 2009 21:31:13 GMT -5
I agree DJ! A smart and original plot. Maybe living in the house in Rockaway held too many bad memories for Eames. I was waiting for Goren to say, "I thought you favored margaritas." Yeah the drink thing didn't make a lot of sense, but that was ten years ago. Since then we've only seen her order a martini. I loved Goren going through the closets. Thing is, I've always imagined his closets looking the same.
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Post by maherjunkie on Jun 28, 2009 21:33:18 GMT -5
I guess he was surprised she was a harder drinker than he thought?
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Post by annabelleleigh on Jun 28, 2009 21:41:52 GMT -5
I don't think so. What about the double vodka she ordered in "Albatross"? ;-)
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Post by Moonbeam on Jun 28, 2009 21:47:51 GMT -5
Gives the term "lady's man" a whole new meaning.
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Post by maherjunkie on Jun 28, 2009 22:21:52 GMT -5
Ahhh!!!!! I feel like Lionel Richie hosting the Grammys...."This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
This was a shipper's delight from top to bottom...Boubon? SHE likes Bourbon, "Don't worry, he came in by himself"AHHHHHH!! The personal was back... Eames at the laundry! Did you sleep with him, of course. And he was insistent about it at the end!
I loved Bobby at the bar, with his arm around Kevin, his old goofy self back.. "Check her out, um um um. Shades of "Crazy"!
Loved the end when he handed him to her on a platter and said "Be still Sweetie". At least that's what I thought he said.
Oh and showing up Faith Yancey! Loved that too. Faith is renewed
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Post by cadesdad on Jun 28, 2009 22:27:51 GMT -5
A very interesting episode that I need to watch again. A few initial observations/questions: 1. I liked seeing Goren sidle up to the lawyer in the bar and engaging him in conversation--it's a little reflection of the quirkiness he showed in the first few seasons. 2. I thought Eames would be angrier/more offended by Goren's probing, but then I realized that it demonstrated the depth of their partnership: he was being completely professional, and she knew that. I also like how Goren expressed his concern about Eames. 3. Ross was largely MIA this episode, but I liked the continuity of his suggesting that Nichols and Wheeler should work this case. 4. I liked Goren's deliberate shove of the lawyer in the aria and his handing the cuffs to Eames; at the same time, I thought Eames was a bit too passive in the aria, given that she was the focal point of it. 5. Another disturbed and disturbing villain--reminded me a bit of Jamie Gumb in "Silence of the Lambs." 6. Finally, was it just me, or did the pacing of this episode seem off? I can't exactly put my finger on it, but the episode never seemed to find its rhythm. Maybe I'll see it on the next viewing.
Overall, another strong episode with signs of Goren getting his groove back.
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Post by Techguy on Jun 28, 2009 22:29:01 GMT -5
When the killer's face was shown in profile in shadows, the shape of the nose gave it away. I knew it was Mulrooney in drag who was the killer.
Somehow he was even able to disguise his voice as a woman on the phone when he called Max to lie about his kid being in the hospital. And he waited 10 years to exact his revenge on Eames. Did he feel rejected when she didn't sleep with him after their talks following Joe's death? What a guy. He's either one of the most patient killers on record or even sicker than most sociopaths. Question: How did he get his hands on Eames' red blouse to use as part of his disguise?
Like others who commented earlier, I liked how Goren protected Eames and showed his due diligence AND concern, even after she got defensive with her "Why are you taking that tone with me?" He was strong and unrelenting, showing no signs of any lingering effects from his personal struggles. I couldn't help but notice a slight but visible reaction as he nodded in agreement when Mulrooney Sr. commented about how his wife's death affected his son because their relationship is different than a father-son relationship. This comment suggests his mother's death set the younger Mulrooney on a murderous path, which did not go unnoticed by Goren. What a fantastic way to integrate Goren's personal history into a connection with the killer without resorting to melodrama. This is the Goren I remember and respect. Welcome back Robert, it's long overdue.
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Post by outerbankschick on Jun 28, 2009 23:29:35 GMT -5
I have to go to bed and will comment more later, but the ending. . .oh I loved it! He gave her the handcuffs. Yes! I would like to give Bobby a big hug and a resounding "atta boy" for letting Alex do the honors. And Cadesdad, well, great minds and all that. I decided after I saw "Family Values" that it should have been subtitled "Goren Gets His Groove Back". How funny is that?!
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Post by random on Jun 28, 2009 23:33:07 GMT -5
This episode was really interesting. There was a lot of interesting use of physical evidence to draw conclusions, and a lot of interesting Goren-Eames dynamic. The killer's attempt to keep tying Eames in was definitely spooky.
Nice to see someone competent working the evidence room, as opposed to the clueless guy we've seen in past episodes.
What cemented the killer for me was the scene where our mysterious redhead was looking out through the blinds. She was holding them open with definite manhands.
I do agree with Cadesdad that the pacing of the episode was kind of uneven. There were perhaps one too many heart to heart scenes between Goren and Eames. I think there would have been more dramatic punch if they had had fewer, longer discussions. Their discussion about the letter also seemed like a deliberate red herring. Goren would never seriously believe that Eames would plant evidence, and neither would we. Her investigative missteps almost always involve revealing too much about her feelings to a suspect and alienating them into silence or non-cooperation.
The writers also seemed to be trying to dance around some of the conclusions. The Mulrooney - Norman Bates angle was kind of clear, but as to whether Mulrooney was a true split personality, there were hints rather than definitive answers.
I also liked the scene where they were confronting Craig about his alibi, which involved cheating on his wife. Goren was completely in the guy's personal space, and Eames acted as if she couldn't care less, as if cheating husbands meant just another form to fill out. Goren scared the guy so badly that he glommed onto Eames' detachment.
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Post by cadesdad on Jun 28, 2009 23:43:19 GMT -5
Nice observation about how Goren and Eames tag-teamed the one suspect in the interrogation room. I also liked the interview early in the episode with Goren asking, "Does he really have to be here?" and then Eames repeating the question to the mourning widow. Funny--almost inappropriately so. ;D
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Post by emr on Jun 29, 2009 5:25:02 GMT -5
Did anyone notice how red Mulrooney's ears were? I thought it was just my imagination but then I remembered something Goren said in an earlier episode about his mother saying that she could always tell a liar by how red their ears got. I noticed it particularly in Mulrooney's first scene.
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Post by DonnaJo on Jun 29, 2009 6:57:56 GMT -5
I noticed the very red ears too, emr. They were outside in the bitter NYC cold - I assumed his ears were red for that reason. Maybe the guest actor had to wait around outside for awhile for the scene to shoot? I also liked the scene where they were confronting Craig about his alibi, which involved cheating on his wife. Goren was completely in the guy's personal space, and Eames acted as if she couldn't care less, as if cheating husbands meant just another form to fill out. Goren scared the guy so badly that he glommed onto Eames' detachment. LOL! Goren is standing behind Craig, smirking away at Eames while Craig's begging for them not to tell his wife about the red head, and when he turns to look at Goren, Bobby's expression immediately switches to deadpan. HeeHee.
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Post by outerbankschick on Jun 29, 2009 7:17:28 GMT -5
Okay. . .an "ewww" moment. . . Mulroney as the "redhead" was going through Eames' things. . .and then Bobby asks him in the aria about the "undergarments". And then it hit me last night, when I was trying to go to sleep. . .Mulroney pulled a pair of panties out of Eames' drawer. . .or at least, I think he did. Eeeek!
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