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Post by maherjunkie on Nov 10, 2007 11:15:39 GMT -5
Well I found it anti-climatic. Once again, I was more excited about the clip than the show. It wasn't Logan punching the wall like I thought. I guess since it wasn't the first episode they cut out the part where she says to Logan, Are you always going to be late. When it was over I had to watch the beginning again, cause with all the introductions of characters I was confussed on who was who. Next week we get the guy From The Unblinking Eye. I know what you mean. I was looking forward to seeing Logan get hot under the collar so I could get hot under the collar. It was incredible to see "Arnie" play a respectable, non-schmuck guy. Steve Guttenberg was good too. Probably underrated in the dramatic dept. I liked the Irish flag being on Mikey's desk. Did anyone else notice he SMILED more in this episode than at any other time in the character's history? Artistically, to me the Logan eps are like the bedsheets after a dalliance; they're a mess in plot/structure, but they are a fun mess.
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Post by MissEllie on Nov 11, 2007 8:55:53 GMT -5
I like the Logan/Falacci relationship that's building. I think he really sees his younger self in her and "gets her" more than his Howdy Doody partner. I wish Falacci would continue and I'm not looking forward to JN's return. JMO
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Post by maherjunkie on Nov 11, 2007 11:44:05 GMT -5
Did anyone notice this was the second week in a row where a cheesy faced blond was the femme fatale? I'd like to see a brunette be an object of desire once.
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Post by DonnaJo on Nov 11, 2007 14:25:07 GMT -5
I'd like to see a brunette be an object of desire once. If they cast a beautiful brunette, she wouldn't have been considered "smokin" by the losers in the show, like the wimpy author and the coin dealer in "Depths. Over bleached blond bimbos are what the writer's think unintelligent men find appealing. We've all noticed that Goren, an intelligent class act of a man, is NOT attracted to the cheesy faced blonds. He rather prefers the smart & sexy brunettes of the world. And don't anyone mention Nicole. She may be blond, but she's not cheesy faced. ;D
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Post by maherjunkie on Nov 11, 2007 14:43:27 GMT -5
I don't know, Nelda? Logan also prefers darker haired women, it seems to me.
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Post by Techguy on Nov 11, 2007 15:40:31 GMT -5
Wow! The Logan episodes keep getting better and better this season. "Courtship" is now my favorite L/F of the season, no matter if it was shown out of shooting order or not. Maybe it's because of what Trisha observed, how the Logan episodes are more like classic CI because they're not weighed down with angst and melodrama, maybe it's because we've seen Logan mature into a more thoughtful "voice of reason" with Falacci as his partner, maybe it's something I can't put my finger on. Whatever the reason, I'm enjoying the Logan episodes even more than I did last season--and I enjoyed them a lot last year with the exception of a few clunkers--so I'm eagerly anticipating the next L/F of this season. What a treat--way to go Mikey!
Did anyone else recognize Bruce MacVittie, the actor who plays Supreme Court Judge Frye, as a repeat offender not only from "Semi-Professional"--he's also the actor who plays the guy who pushes Vincent D'Onofrio's character John Lange off the platform in "Subway." He and Steve Guttenberg are terrific in their respective roles, with Guttenberg as the egomaniacal movie director especially impressive. I also enjoyed the performance by the actor who plays the hapless PI Hawk. Why in the world he would give up his fish, thinking someone like Christine would run away with him, is mind boggling. The Christine character is totally self-centered, coaching her own son to help her in her scheme to incriminate Hawk. She's a whore all right, but not so over-the-top as to be unbelievable. I enjoyed this performance too, culminating in a beautifully staged and appropriate aria, giving Christine a dose of her own medicine.
The only downside of this episode for me is the absence of ME Rodgers, which is more than compensated for by the extended scenes with Captain Ross, Logan, and Falacci. I'm enjoying Falacci's abrasiveness more and more, she is an aggressive no-nonsense female detective, a formidable counterpoint to Logan's "voice of reason" approach. Their scenes together are dynamic and electric, and I'm enjoying every minute of them. As much as I liked Wheeler last season, I wonder what the dynamic will be if and when she returns as Logan's partner--or even if she will get that chance if the WGA strike drags on. In the meantime, I'll just enjoy Logan and Falacci for as long as their episodes air.
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Post by Patcat on Nov 11, 2007 19:51:11 GMT -5
Yea, I liked MacVittie. Obviously a versatile actor. And Guttenberg acquitted himself nicely.
Clearly, the only blondes to be trusted in the LOCI world is Eames. Redheads, on the other hand, are completely reliable (g).
Patcat
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Post by diablodeblanco on Nov 11, 2007 20:09:59 GMT -5
Appreciating Logan more and more. Age becomes him. His outlook on the way to handle things has mellowed over the years. He is now much more interesting to watch.
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Post by Summerfield on Nov 11, 2007 22:08:59 GMT -5
Well I watched it again and finally figured it out. I should know better to watch CI after a long day at work. I enjoyed it, but my jury is still out regarding Fallaci.
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Post by DonnaJo on Nov 12, 2007 9:17:02 GMT -5
Steve Guttenburg WAS excellent, wasn't he? When stressed in the courtroom & in interrogation, he chants,"Ocean...ocean...ocean" to calm himself. Then when he enters the viewing room with Christine, he savors the room, calling it claustrophobic & visceral. Just a few great lines that made the character amusing & lightened the episode a bit. I don't know how wise it is in the long run to make Logan so calm & reasonable with Falacci as his partner, and then back to butting heads with the higher ups, including Ross, when Wheeler returns. For me, Logan's much more interesting (and sexy) as a matured bad boy, a live wire.
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Post by mimi on Nov 12, 2007 9:48:46 GMT -5
Oh my, what a story! Mike "the voice of reason" Logan, I have a hard time buying into that. Not that it doesn't suit him, but I like my Mikey a little more fiery (and not blondie)! I understand that he wants to hold Falacci's horses, but watching him with Guttenberg's character telling him to calm down, that was just over the top.
I always found his technique to get what he wanted from a suspect or a witness fascinating. I believe that scene was a missed opportunity to show us what Logan is capable of in an interrogation room.
I loved the scene where Logan cuts Ross mid-sentence with his "we get the point". Ross' look is priceless, he had the "did you just pulled the rug underneath me" look. I think Ross likes to be in control, but he sure knows when to let it go.
I really enjoyed that the secondary characters (and their respective stories) supported the main characters and by extension the main story.
I still like Falacci's go-getter personnality, but if the writing team doesn't give her some kind of filter soon she will become a character that blurts everything that comes to mind with no considerations of who she might hurt along the way. Yang always need some Yin and Logan can't do that all the time. My belief is that a character needs to have both within himself/herself otherwise it looks like a parody, a Laurel and Hardy act.
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Post by random on Nov 12, 2007 10:06:22 GMT -5
I kind of liked the homage to "Body Heat, " a fine film, although it was a bit spooky that they felt it necessary to hire an actress that looked like Kathleen Turner. I found the plot a bit convoluted, although I guess that was necessary if they didn't want poor Artie Bucco to go down for the crime, which would have mirrored the original film.
What I liked about this episode was the fact that Logan was really interacting with the other characters quite a bit more in this episode. Falacci's outbursts still seemed to be over the top, but they were about real issues surrounding police work, rather than random fussiness, and so they fit the story. As a number of others have suggested, I'm still not quite sure whether she will turn out to be character or caricature.
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Post by lovesong on Nov 16, 2007 16:09:41 GMT -5
I liked this one. I'm not a big Falacci fan, and I'm looking forward to Wheeler's return, but she really tweaked this one, for the good.
Other than being slightly horrified by the worst dye job ever and whatever strange thing Noth has done to his face (can't put my finger on it, but something is off about it-probably related to a Mr Big appearance), I'm enjoying Logan. I wish he'd have more squabbles with Ross, those two are priceless together, but he's charming in an offish way and his golden gut has been far more believable than Gorenvision of late.
This one followed by "Self Made" has me in role rerversal. Instead of sitting through the L/whomever episoides for the rare G/E reference or stab at seriers continuity (ala Blasters, "goren would have known,") or even just scence from the next G/E episoide, now I'm now faithfully watching Logan/whomever for sheer entertainment and G/E for Rodgers/Ross quips.
I feel as though I have a whole new, good, show to watch, but mourn the fact that one of my old faves is just no longer on.
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Post by goreamesfan on Nov 17, 2007 9:17:44 GMT -5
Wow. Lately, I seem to be very out of step with other viewers (at least the ones on this site). I thought this episode was easily the worst thus far this season and thought that might even be why it was shown out of order (not wanting to kick off the Logan season with a sub-par episode). I thought the writing was weak, the motive for the killing VERY weak (a problem lately for this show), and the acting by the guest stars -- the judge excepted -- awful. Steve Guttenburg once again proved why he hasn't gotten a lot of work lately. The guy overacted terribly. Ironically, the one bright spot was the interaction between Logan and Fallacci. I'm not a fan of Witt's, and here she is basically recreating a role she's played her entire life (starting with Cybill), but she and Logan were funny and believable together.
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Post by deathroe on Nov 20, 2007 22:56:58 GMT -5
Gosh, you know, I just watched this, and the writing at the end was straight out of a daytime soap.
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