kacesq
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Post by kacesq on Mar 22, 2011 20:05:50 GMT -5
Many thanks to www.thereelblog.com for bringing these interviews to my attention... In this interview: stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/03/21/overnight-america-tuesday-march-22nd(This is a relatively "long" interview for radio, but the CI comments are at the very beginning. The rest of the interview is excellent, too, imho.) and in this one (scroll down to the 3-18 entry): wgir.morningbuzzonline.com/cc-common/podcast.htmlVincent seems to be saying this may not be the final season of CI. What do you all think? I have to wonder if there aren't already some kinds of negotiations going on behind the scenes to continue the show, because we've gone from last year's "never want to be a toaster again" quote to a final season of 8 episodes to now "you never know...". That being said, I have mixed feelings, lol. I have mentally prepared myself - as I did when I heard G/E were being shown the door in S9 - to say goodbye to "my" show after these last eight episodes air. It's been quite a rollercoaster ride of a show, Goren's personal arc has been turbulent and I was rather looking forward to an ending. On the other hand, this is my show. I miss original episodes, I love the G/E pairing, I just love it and I want it to be successful. What do you all think? If anyone wants to slap me down and say Vincent was just talking off the cuff, I'll accept that, too.
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Post by maherjunkie on Mar 23, 2011 9:59:57 GMT -5
Could be true. I'm a cockeyed optimist.
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Post by skittles4me on Mar 23, 2011 12:17:57 GMT -5
Me too! I'm a glass half full kind of person! ;D
Kacesq, I would never slap you down buddy! <3
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Post by dimarec on Mar 24, 2011 0:02:53 GMT -5
To confuse us (or give us some hope...), I found this announcement by NBC that it will air LOCI 10th season episodes beginning May 30, and on the facebook page "All things Law and Order". I am intrigued about the "momentum" NBC is building: allthingslawandorder.blogspot.com/2011/03/law-order-ci-to-air-mondays-on-nbc-for.html downloaded march 23, 2011. (Excerpt follows) Monday, March 21, 2011 Law & Order CI to Air Mondays on NBC For Summer Schedule NBC has announced its summer schedule, which has the final season of Law & Order Criminal Intent airing on Mondays. Remember, the episodes will air first on USA Network. The full NBC press release is below. ... ********************************************************** NBC Press Release March 21, 2011 NBC ANNOUNCES STRONG SLATE OF ORIGINAL PROGRAMMING FOR SUMMER 2011 SCHEDULE Network Showcases Season Premiere of “America’s Got Talent,” Debut of New Alternative Series “It’s Worth What?” and Return of “The Marriage Ref” with Jerry Seinfeld UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. -- March 21, 2011 – NBC revealed its strong slate of original series programming for Summer 2011 that features the sixth-season premiere of summer’s top-rated “America’s Got Talent” on Tuesday, May 31 (9-11 p.m. ET), the announcement of the new alternative series “It’s Worth What?” and the second-season debut of “The Marriage Ref” on Sunday, June 26 (10-11 p.m. ET). In addition, NBC will offer fresh programs such as the musical competition series “The Voice” (regular day and time Tuesdays, 8-9 p.m. ET) through June as well as the new alternative series “Still Standing” (working title in the U.S.) and “Love in the Wild” (days and times TBA). Original episodes of the drama “Law & Order: Los Angeles” (Mondays, 10-11 p.m. ET) also continue. NBC also will present the broadcast network premiere of the final season of “Law & Order: Criminal Intent” on Monday, May 30 (9-10 p.m. ET). Meanwhile, the last season of “Friday Night Lights” (Fridays, 8-9 p.m. ET) also continues well into the summer. The announcements were made today by Bob Greenblatt, Chairman, NBC Entertainment. “We want to make it clear that NBC considers the summer as an important part of its overall season and will continue to offer a varied lineup of original programs,” said Greenblatt. “Our viewers will have plenty of options with new series such as ‘It’s Worth What?’ and ‘Love in the Wild’ as well as continuing shows such as ‘The Voice’ plus returning favorites like ‘America’s Got Talent.’ We even have scripted series such as ‘Friday Night Lights,’ and episodes of two separate ‘Law and Order’ franchises as we build momentum toward the fall season.”
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Post by alliehalliwell on Mar 24, 2011 1:58:28 GMT -5
Awesome! Glad to finally hear LOCI will air on NBC, I was getting worried us Canadian would be deprived.
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Post by annabelleleigh on Mar 31, 2011 13:10:59 GMT -5
After many months making shoestring indie films and watching other projects fail to find funding, VDO must have felt the sub-zero sting that is most of show biz.
Seems in the interview he's signaling TPTB not only that he's okay with being a toaster but also that he might like to stay plugged in.
AL
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Post by jeffan on Mar 31, 2011 13:50:51 GMT -5
Bulls-eye Annabelle.
It also seemed odd that it’s only eight episodes - advertiser's contracts/schedule filler after Jeff’s departure? A Dick Wolf sweetener so that viewers watch his new show?
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Post by angua on Mar 31, 2011 14:12:04 GMT -5
After many months making shoestring indie films and watching other projects fail to find funding, VDO must have felt the sub-zero sting that is most of show biz. Seems in the interview he's signaling TPTB not only that he's okay with being a toaster but also that he might like to stay plugged in. AL Careful with who you call a toaster AL. But I have to say that he must have warring needs right now--the need for creative independance versus the need to hold a steady carreer. Since CI is what led to his collapse and weight gain (I assume) I kinda hope that he decides to seek other pastures, and that's not just because Dick Wolf is no longer writing the episodes . . . actually yeah, it kind of is.
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kacesq
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Post by kacesq on Mar 31, 2011 14:25:36 GMT -5
This seems to be an appropriate time to revisit the quotes from USA and Dick Wolf at the time season 10 was announced:
“We have been the fortunate caretakers of this legendary series, and we plan to give it the world-class farewell it so richly deserves. Dick and his team promise to create a major event for television with incredible surprises,” said Wachtel. “The plan is for this to be the series finale, but with a Dick Wolf franchise, one really never knows until it’s over.”“I want to thank Bonnie and Jeff for bringing CRIMINAL INTENT back for a tenth season,” said creator and executive producer Wolf. “Only time will tell if this is a fond farewell or a renaissance for Detective Robert Goren but everyone both here and in New York is ecstatic about going back to work on a show that’s a passion for all of us. Signed, Brett Favre.”
I agree with you Annabelleleigh - and I think in one of his more recent interviews, VDO said "well see what USA decides."...and personally, I think Dick Wolf would be very happy to keep all of his shows going for as long as humanly possible, lol. So it seems to me that DW and VDO would be interested in some kind of continuation. If maybe not a full or even a partial season, I think a movie-length eppy now and then might be fun.
Angua, I didn't think Dick Wolf wrote any CI episodes??? Did you mean Rene Balcer? God I miss his CI. I so wish he would come back for S10 but he's busy with LO:LA. ::kicks dirt::
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angua
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Post by angua on Mar 31, 2011 14:31:33 GMT -5
Hmm. I looked him up on IMDb and he's listed as Writer (creator) of many of the first episodes and some of Season 8's. But what exactly does Writer (creator) guy mean/ Did he actually pen anything or is he just the guy who made up the characters? Anyone know?
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Post by idget on Mar 31, 2011 21:57:20 GMT -5
I thought the writing for Lola has been awful so I for one am glad Balcer is not coming back. I am interested to see what this new show runner is capable of, maybe some fresh blood will revitalize the show.
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Post by jeffan on Apr 1, 2011 4:48:56 GMT -5
I understand your point about the show's revitalization but I think it would have been a positive if Renee Balcer returned to LO:CI. He has written many episodes that are unsurpassable and, being co-creator, really knows the characters. Maybe, he set the bar too high. I’m just glad it’s not the writer who replaced him (forgotten his name) because then the show lost it’s special something and became so over-the-top and clichéd, eg - Goren’s father a serial killer. That was so predictable to make it comical. I know this is all a moot point but it’s what I think.
As I wrote in another post, based on what we have been fed so far, my expectations are not going to be set too high but I hope I’m proved wrong.
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Post by idget on Apr 1, 2011 6:05:58 GMT -5
Jeffan I agree that some of the best LOCI episodes were ones he is credited with co-writing, although I also like some episodes after he left just as much. But judging from some of the last season of Law and Order the original I have seen and Lola, both of which I believe he is credited as show runner, I have not been impressed at all with the story telling. Perhaps he also needs to work on something different to get fresh inspiration.
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Post by dimarec on Apr 1, 2011 8:33:02 GMT -5
May be Rene Balcer needs to work with actors like VDO and KE to get that superior product. I like Rene Balcer. He usually writes with someone else, may be we should look at writing teams. It might be team work that made those episodes so good. Also the director(s) may be responsible. I liked Segonzac and Prinzi episodes. Anyway, when I look at IMdB list of people involved in the creation of each episode, it is so huge. (and I get a grasp of why it is so expensive). Final point is, VDO and KE and some other staff might be giving input to the show that made it original.
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Post by idget on Apr 2, 2011 1:36:20 GMT -5
You make a great point Dimarce it takes a whole lot of factors to make a great compelling TV show. Which is why I guess there are so few hits and many misses.
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