eva
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Post by eva on Jul 6, 2008 3:40:10 GMT -5
PS: Eames is fictional? Aw, darn. ;D But hey, they say that everybody has a doppelganger. Why shouldn't that include fictional characters? So who knows, maybe there's a Mini- Eames runnig around somewhere ;D You are right about Goren in the later episodes. It just that I saw "Vacancy" a few days ago myself again and it just felt so... strange.
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Post by DonnaJo on Jul 6, 2008 12:37:08 GMT -5
I took the use of the term "Rocky Mountain Hard." as a play on phrase. I'm old, so I remember John Denver's hit "Rocky Mountain High." I think they were taking that title & changing it to reflect that the murdered girl was a biotch. She was hard aka cold & frigid. Of course, the writers forgot that the young people reflected in this episode would have never heard of the song "Rocky Mountain High." At least not be comfortable enough with it to use it in that way.
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Post by outerbankschick on Jul 6, 2008 13:15:28 GMT -5
Mind you, the later episodes have seemed to document that Goren gets a little bewildered where Eames is concerned ... PS: Eames is fictional? Aw, darn. Bewildered is a good word. Or maybe awkward. He's not used to her needing reassurance and that exchange in the squad room highlighted that. She was really worrying over the way she had pushed Alice and all Bobby could manage was "Well. . .it'll be alright." It came out in that thick tone he uses when he's uncomfortable. He sounded like he had a throatful of sand. I find that discomfitted fumbling adorably endearing for some reason.
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Post by quietfireca on Jul 6, 2008 18:47:12 GMT -5
Bewildered is a good word. Or maybe awkward. He's not used to her needing reassurance and that exchange in the squad room highlighted that. She was really worrying over the way she had pushed Alice and all Bobby could manage was "Well. . .it'll be alright." It came out in that thick tone he uses when he's uncomfortable. He sounded like he had a throatful of sand. I find that discomfitted fumbling adorably endearing for some reason. The throatful of sand is a wonderful description - how he was in most of Betrayed! He's just hopeless when it comes to "profiling" or reassuring her. She so seldom needs it, that when his Rock of Gibraltar (Eames) shifts, he falters. The aunt thing didn't bother me that much - she did need to explain why she was so hard on drunks. Having an alcoholic family member doesn't stop one from working in a bar (it wouldn't be a career choice) or drinking responsibly yourself. Eames was sure ticked that it effected their investigation. I found the Rocky Mountain Hard more annoying. Surely they could have come up with another phrase....
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Post by deathroe on Jul 6, 2008 19:19:44 GMT -5
I think he expects her to be able to take pretty much anything, whatever he can take.
Turns out, neither of them can. Hmmmm.
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eva
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Post by eva on Jul 7, 2008 4:19:10 GMT -5
Bewildered is a good word. Or maybe awkward. He's not used to her needing reassurance and that exchange in the squad room highlighted that. She was really worrying over the way she had pushed Alice and all Bobby could manage was "Well. . .it'll be alright." It came out in that thick tone he uses when he's uncomfortable. He sounded like he had a throatful of sand. A great description indeed. I'll have to rewatch this scene but your words make perfect sense.
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Post by Patcat on Jul 7, 2008 8:01:14 GMT -5
The reversal of the usual Goren/Eames dynamic is one of the things I like about VACANCY. Mr. D'Onofrio plays Bobby's bewilderment (I agree--a good word to describe his state) very well. Bobby knows something is wrong--he even knows what's wrong, but he doesn't know what to do. He wants to help Alex, but he recognizes that comfort may not be what she wants or needs.
Patcat
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Post by quietfireca on Jul 8, 2008 1:40:41 GMT -5
Mr. D'Onofrio plays Bobby's bewilderment (I agree--a good word to describe his state) very well. Bobby knows something is wrong--he even knows what's wrong, but he doesn't know what to do. He wants to help Alex, but he recognizes that comfort may not be what she wants or needs. Patcat I thought he dealt with it appropriately - just not assertively enough (i.e. awkward as h##ll as he was so bewildered!). If he'd been more assertive, she might have received the reassurance she was looking for. His tone and delivery probably did nothing to reassure her! She just needed to know there was another direction to go. He probably hadn't figured that out yet - and she was temporarily mired in screw-up mode. JMO
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