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Post by quietfireca on Jul 21, 2008 21:13:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't give too much stock to Dean actually knowing something about Goren and Eames. Like a lot of con men and magicians, he's using broad general statements and looking for the one that gets a reaction. Dean's right that cops use the same approach, and I suspect Goren's was ready for Dean's broad attacks on him. Eames looked a little shook at first, but she recovered quickly. Patcat When Dean was reading Eames, she definitely went into guarded mode and the air must have been thick with tension. Dean must have been delighted that he hit the nail so squarely as Goren's reaction to his words was obvious (wow, two for the price of one - he must have been in psychic heaven). With a look at Alex as she turns away from Dean, Goren releases the tension and bails Alex out with the quick and immediate explanation of how psychics work. The focus is thrown back on Dean. Later, Eames bails Goren out. When Dean questions Goren about losing a step or two over the years, Eames quickly steps in with "oh, but he solved this one". She watched Goren as he began to withdraw, just as she had withdrawn earlier. Knowing Goren was beginning to wallow by asking himself the same question, she deflected Dean's drill point. She just can't help herself. She's still fast to protect him.
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Post by quietfireca on Jul 21, 2008 22:02:20 GMT -5
And that's a good thing. ;D
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Post by darmok on Jul 21, 2008 22:07:15 GMT -5
I pretty much agree that Dean was guessing some. However, he must have looked up some information. I mean, why would a magician know the name of the "father of profiling?" He must have looked up the information to pull Goren's chain.
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Post by diablodeblanco on Jul 22, 2008 1:20:49 GMT -5
Perhaps he knew the profiler's name because he had studied profiling, among other subjects to help him when he was assessing a person who came onto the stage to participate in the "mind reading". There wasn't anything mystical about what he did. He was very good at assessing someone whether they were a willing participant or not. Kind of like professional poker players. Not all luck but being able to read your opponents.
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Post by DonnaJo on Jul 22, 2008 9:40:51 GMT -5
I think in addition to reading people, he could have had a bit of that "second sense" that some of these psychic readers my sister and some of my friends have gone to .
You know, someone hosts a "Psychic Party" and they pay this supposed clairvoyant to tell them their futures? Popular in the suburbs. This person gets a vibe, can see a bit of what someone is thinking, and then begins to extrapolate. I see Dean as having that ability to sense things, in addition to what I wrote earlier about assuming things about Eames and Goren based on their age, profession etc...
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Post by nosee on Jul 22, 2008 9:45:56 GMT -5
I can't tell you how happy I was watching this episode. It was so much fun. Even though they couldn't let the angst go away completely, it didn't weigh down the story. Heck, even Ross was enjoying himself. Eames was laughing. When was the last time that has happened? nosee
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Post by LO:CI on Jul 22, 2008 16:19:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but what does "phoning it in" mean?
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Post by annabelleleigh on Jul 22, 2008 16:36:54 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but what does "phoning it in" mean? LO:CI -- it's an idiom peculiar to U.S. English. It means conveying only what's necessary (to a performance, an appearance, etc), with the least effort. AL
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Post by sarahlee on Jul 22, 2008 16:59:18 GMT -5
I can relax now ...The Real G&E are back! What a great episode. How I've missed 'em...so nice to see the ease back in their relationship (despite Dean's pathetic efforts to unsettle them.) CI has a formula, (not a bad thing) and it was fun the have the old times back, even if it's for just one episode.
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Post by outerbankschick on Jul 22, 2008 17:58:06 GMT -5
Alex will always protect him. I think she's grown too fond of him now to let him dangle out there on his own. It was nice to see him protective of her for a change, too. (Emotionally, that is. Physically he's always stepped in when he thought it necessary.)
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Post by roots2rock on Jul 22, 2008 22:11:54 GMT -5
I certainly hope so as I agree - those comments did seem directed at the fans. I loved this episode - it was so nice to see a return to Goren & Eames working together smoothly and her amusement at his antics. I think a re-watch is in order...
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Post by roots2rock on Jul 22, 2008 22:12:55 GMT -5
Hey everyone, please bear with me--the rookie--I was trying to add to Spits' post--
I agree with her the episode should be watched over and over! I also am in agreement with almost of the posts that this was the best episode of the season. r2r
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Post by dragonsback on Jul 22, 2008 23:11:12 GMT -5
Just watched Vanishing Act last night. Hurrah ! with some curmudgeonly reservations. Yes, it was cute, yes it was fun to see the MCS people having a laugh, yes I grinned widely when Bobby goofed around with the magic props. Cute and fun. Not a patch, IMO, on eps like Shandeh, Bright Boy, Yesterday, etc etc. In those eps, the props that Goren played with were people. A lot trickier, that Sleight-of-Mind . I absolutely agree with all of you who felt Christopher Lloyd (and Carmine) were underused. If we had seen more of the old dog with his old tricks, and the compelling Lloyd, I would have given this ep much higher marks. Such a rich supporting character to be mined. I LOVED the jailbreak (and all the attendant business between Officer Smith(or White or Jones) , Goren and the wonderfully scripted Ross. I LOATHED Goren's early dismissal of Carmine as an old drunk. It was so, uh, un-Bobbylike. (In another time, another ep, Goren would have been pouring vodka gimlets down the old showman's throat as a truth serum. ) Most jarring about that line was that it is so at odds with both adult Robert Goren the passionate Classicist and young Bobby Goren the wide-eyed sorcerer-uncle's apprentice. Still it was young Jerome Hairston's first outing as a LOCI scribe, and it was a terrific debut, too, a romp of dialogue. Overall the second best script of the season (Amends is still at the top of my list).
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Post by Techguy on Jul 23, 2008 0:07:19 GMT -5
Dragonsback, I really liked your comparison to the classic "Sleight-Of-Mind" CI episodes. If only we can get that signature feature back again in the G/E episodes I'll know Goren has fully recovered for sure.
The one scene that's missing from this episode that begs to have been included is the one between Carmine and the cop before Camine escapes 1PP, not showing the actual escape of course, just the setup of what went on between the two characters when Carmine was in his jail cell. Not only would this have given us more screen time for Christopher Lloyd, it would have provided the opportunity for the sly crafty magician to distract the cop AND the viewing audience and put one over on both.
For SarahIvy and anyone else having difficulty reading my posts: if you click and drag your cursor to highlight my posts, the text will show up white on blue. I hope this helps.
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Post by Summerfield on Jul 23, 2008 7:23:36 GMT -5
I wish they'd do more of these episodes. It was a good story with plausible twists and turns, just enough to keep us guessing. A refreshing turn from the G/E angst of which I've grown tired.
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