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Post by maherjunkie on May 1, 2010 12:05:38 GMT -5
I didn't, but the woman exudes vagina dentata everywhere she goes.
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Post by outerbankschick on May 1, 2010 20:19:42 GMT -5
Based on the definition of scenery chewing, I totally disagree that Vincent's performances have anything to do with that. And DJ, I know you weren't talking about the guest stars...I was making the point that if high drama and emotion is too much...er...melodrama...then many of the guest stars of seasons past are guilty as charged.
TG, totally agree on those "usual suspects". There is a reason NBC is referred to as the No Brains Channel. They handle things like a bunch of first-year interns.
Sharon Stone delivered the performance I expected for an SVU ep. I think the story was a bit off...interesting twist there, having the A.D.A. end up working for the defense....
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Post by DonnaJo on May 2, 2010 11:52:39 GMT -5
This is OT but... Has anyone seen Sharon Stone on SVU? There was enough Scenery Chewing in one episode for the entire L&O franchise! LOL Jefferaldo! Have heard so much about that episode. I caught one scene while my husband was channel surfing - Stone's character (somehow in a NYFD fire jacket) entering a burned out house. I mean, why would an ADA be allowed to do that? Oh wait....it's SVU. Logic has nothing to do with the plotline. The only other "excessive"acting of VDO's that truly bothered me (other than the slab scene) was the scene in "Siren Call" with the step dad cop at the end. Again, others have a different take, which I indeed respect. For me, it was not what I expected from Goren in a dangerous situation. Now the teaser from "Frame," that was so heartbreaking! Poor Bobby. I would like to see your screencaps, OBC, if that's OK?
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Post by outerbankschick on May 2, 2010 17:47:42 GMT -5
When I get my blogpost done, I'll send you the link, DJ. It was really quite amazing to watch his face during that scene.
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Post by hargiteam42 on May 3, 2010 16:08:34 GMT -5
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And as for apportioning "blame" if that's the right word: one only has to look at how NBC handled the Conan O'Brien/Jay Leno fiasco to identify the usual suspects. Yeah, well said. I wouldn't really blame VDO for them getting fired. It's the shittastic people behind the scenes that the major blame should fall on. What with their claims of wanting to make the show "lighter" and all. As I said before, this is a crime drama, we watch it for the gritty reality of it and the hot actors. If we want fluff and silliness, we'll watch Monk or something equally as annoying, no offense to those who like the show.
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Post by Jefferaldo on May 3, 2010 17:16:14 GMT -5
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And as for apportioning "blame" if that's the right word: one only has to look at how NBC handled the Conan O'Brien/Jay Leno fiasco to identify the usual suspects. What with their claims of wanting to make the show "lighter" and all. As I said before, this is a crime drama, we watch it for the gritty reality of it and the hot actors. If we want fluff and silliness, we'll watch Monk or something equally as annoying, no offense to those who like the show. Have you watched Delicate and Gods & Insects? The show hasn't become lighter or more fluffy.
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Post by Techguy on May 3, 2010 19:13:28 GMT -5
Spot on Jeff. Where has all the light and fluffy gone? We hardly knew ya. Or has USA done another 180 in its approach to what "Characters Welcome" is supposed to mean?
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Post by hargiteam42 on May 4, 2010 6:51:07 GMT -5
Jefferaldo, no I have not watched any of the new episodes. - attempted the one after Loyalty and was thoroughly displeased. Hence, my use of the term, "claim". I'm not saying that it happened, and by what you've told me, it just goes to show that TPTB are a bunch of liars.
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Post by Jefferaldo on May 4, 2010 6:58:12 GMT -5
How have they lied about this? There seem to be a lot of posts where people are saying that TPTB chopped VDO and KE because they wanted to make the show more light and fluffy.
I read the articles at the time and did not - and have not since - read a post where TPTB are quoted as saying that they were let go (which we know isn't true in VDO's case) to make the show more light and fluffy. Sure Goldblum's quirkiness MAY fit USA's "characters welcome" bill more appropriately that Goren (or at least the Goren of seasons 6-8) but that still doesn't make the show light and fluffy.
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Post by Patcat on May 4, 2010 8:41:42 GMT -5
As I recall, the lighter and fluffier idea came not from TPTB or anyone connected with the show, but from a television writer's speculation. It's another one of those cases where an idea took off but with no basis in fact.
I think we can blame the production staff and USA for a lot of things, but no one involved with them said the show was going to be lighter and fluffier and that certainly hasn't been the case with the show.
I'll continue to watche the Nichols episodes, but I'm concerned that I missed last week's episode and still can't quite remember his new partner's name, and that neither fact bothers me very much.
Patcat
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Post by lovebug on May 4, 2010 9:56:55 GMT -5
Jefferaldo, The term "lighter fare" was used in an article that explained how Goldblum was taking over for VDO. I believe a supporting quote came from USA saying fans want the "lighter-fare" Goldblum would bring the series. Included with this statement was VDO's press statement about leaving the series. I can't find it right now but, I will post it when/if I locate it. I think there's actually a link in one of these threads with the article but, it could take a long time to dig for it.
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Post by maherjunkie on May 4, 2010 11:19:43 GMT -5
They always use a blue sky background for Jeff now.
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Post by crimefighter on May 4, 2010 11:26:34 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole " lighter" angle begun by Bonnie Hammer? I know there was an article where she was quoted as saying that she wanted the show to become more "Light" less intense, more character driven, llike the other shows on the USA Network. There was a mention of a " Blue sky approach" and how Nichols would be more like Monk. I know I didn't imagine it, she was clearly talking about a new type of approach, as was Walon Green, in his article, he said the show would handle the same type of crimes but in a new way. The show was described as too intense while Goren and Eames were the lead team, I never felt that, unlike SVU where horrible crimes are a daily occurance, the Old C.I. handled violent crime, but held off on the gore. I don't hear from the Boards that the crimes have changed on the show, have the way they are handled by the new guy any different? If not then what was the problems all about, a good show with a cast we liked was decimated for nothing, stupid and sad!
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Post by Patcat on May 4, 2010 12:02:15 GMT -5
Crimefighter--can you find that article? The only articles I recall didn't have any quotes from Ms. Hammer or anyone else. It was all specualtion on the article's author's part.
Patcat
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Post by maherjunkie on May 4, 2010 12:12:14 GMT -5
I remember it too. This is also the same genius who said she lets her son makes these decisions too.
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