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Post by trisha on Jun 13, 2005 5:33:01 GMT -5
Anyone else watch it?
I love the first season, it just feels so ... energetic. Can't say I loved Goren's hair in this one, though. You guys know what a stickler I am about hair ;D
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Post by Patcat on Jun 13, 2005 9:26:37 GMT -5
It's always interesting watching early episodes of a show to see how they've changed. ONE does a very good job of establishing Goren's character, showing his eccentricities and unorthodox techniques. It also demonstrates his zeal for justice (when he pledges to the parents to catch the murderers of their daughter), and his willingness to bend the rules (when he tells the girlfriend she probably has AIDS).
As for his looks, I've read a couple of interviews where D'Onofrio comments that he'd just finished SALTON SEA when the pilot was filmed and he was trying to shed a last few pounds.
Patcat
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Post by trisha on Jun 13, 2005 12:49:13 GMT -5
Yep, and Eames was shown to be much more "by the book." That's certainly not to say that she still isn't, but I do think she's gotten much more ... flexible. I mean, her work attire alone!
I often wonder what the purpose of the third detective was originally. Any thoughts on this? Hell, does anyone even remember his name? I just watched the episode and forgot it already!
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Post by NikkiGreen on Jun 13, 2005 12:57:13 GMT -5
I was going to watch it last night at 7:00 before The West Wing (the CTV just got around to showing the 2004-2005 season last week) and Silver Lining, but the CTV aired an extra episode of CI at 7:00. We got Con-Text and I went with another chance to see Dougie. That was rather refreshing, after working all weekend! I have this Thursday and Friday off and plan to catch up with all of my homework and do nothing else for four days.
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Post by det1stgrade on Jun 13, 2005 15:14:43 GMT -5
I frequently watch my S1 dvd's and "One" is one of my fav eps. I also like "Jones" and "The Good Doctor." Have you noticed how 1/2 way through S1 Vincent had his teeth fixed/straightened? I always wondered of NBC forced him to, to be a better looking leading man, or if it was Vincent's own choice. I thought his little crooked front tooth was kinda' endearing. I liked the way it made his top lip lay and the way he pronounced certain words because of it. Now he has that perfectly-straight denture Hollywood look. Oh well ~ I luv him either way.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Jun 13, 2005 17:10:58 GMT -5
I didn't care for this episode soley because of one scene. I forget the exact words but it is the scene where Goren asked Eames was she okay with the men having stolen the money. She answered and apparently Goren didn't like her answer and said "Well, if it's ok with you..." She didn't say it is was ok with her! Goren's comment to her was rude and uncalled for.
Well, anyone else have a different take on this scene?
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Post by Observer2 on Jun 13, 2005 18:47:01 GMT -5
NicoleMarie,
I haven’t had a chance to rewatch this one yet... but I've watched it so many times, and read the script so many times, that I've nearly got the thing memorized! I remember the comment you’re talking about.
Goren was not implying that Eames thought it was okay for them to steal. He was pointing out something that seemed odd.
He didn’t ask her if it was okay with her, he asked her if it bothered her, that these guys who just stole all those diamonds were maxing out a stolen credit card.
He didn't mean, does it bother you that they're stealing -- he meant, does it bother you that they're doing something so petty, and potentially risky, when they just stole all those diamonds.
She brushed it off, something along the lines of how they were thieves, and Goren had already said they were impulsive.
So he said something like, “Okay, if it doesn’t bother you...”
He wasn’t implying that the stealing didn’t bother her. He was reacting to the fact that something he saw as an inconsistent element of their behavior didn’t bother her.
...and of course, we later learn that the thieves only used the card for a couple of days, to get themselves set up. Then they gave it to a street kid – and that’s who was maxing it out.
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Post by Cassie on Jun 13, 2005 19:46:08 GMT -5
I watched "One" yesterday. I liked the scene where Goren and Eames are getting out of the SVU. I like the camera angle looking down at them. I think it was a good solid episode from beginning to end, except I wonder what happened to the bald headed Serbian dude. He was the first guy to pull his gun on the two college kids. Before Carl shot them. He left through the front door and it was the last I saw of him. Does anyone know what happened to him? Trisha , I don’t know the name of that cop either, but he also had a small part in The Extra Man. I think he handed Goren a piece of paper while he was in Deakins office. My husband made the comment that they have more extra’s in the early episodes. Then they do now. Ok, Det1stgrade, I agree whole heartily with you about the teeth, That he sounds different, with the new pearly whites!! I have been saying it for a long time. and your the first person to have noticed too That Goren seems to pronounce his words more with the old teeth. I would think that it would be the other way around. He just sounds so different to me. I think his voice is definitely softer in the later episodes. I like both looks on the man. As for Goren's hair, sometimes I think he needs to run a brush through it. but I like it a little longer on him. Actually, I like him here with more meat on his bones, too. In Season 3, I think he was a little on the thin side. Lately I have been thinking maybe that is why they keep his jacket on him just to bulk him up a bit. He's a tall lanky kind of a guy, and when his weight is down. I think he may look too skinny. Sorry, but I dont want to talk about Carl and the dynamics of this creep. I felt sorry for Gia, for getting hooked up with him. In the hotel room, when he had the gun to her head. You knew it wasnt his intent to shoot her. He just wanted to dominate her. Keep her in line
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Post by Metella on Jun 14, 2005 13:18:16 GMT -5
The third detective was in the background of anohter episode, I think. I noticed him the first season & figured they were going to incorporate him & then felt their main characters were drawing the rating and there was no need.
That "ok if it doesn't bother you ..." I think was used to show that Goren is a PROFILER - not just chasing straight after the trail of bread crumbs like "normal" detectives, but that he tries to think how the perp is thinking so he can be in front of them sometimes. I got the exact same flavor as Observer from that line - it was partners talking about the case; thinking out loud.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Jun 14, 2005 15:59:09 GMT -5
Re: The "coment"- Eames won't respond the same way that Goren would have and he should have already known Eames' answer before he asked. I had the same reaction she did- yeah it sucks that the thiefs did this but, it's what thieves do, we'd find out later more about it. Later on, Eames and Goren found out the reasons for using the credit cards. It wasn't so much the comment, it was Goren's reaction to her response that bothered me. "Saying "Well if it doesn't bother you" was like saying "You're stupid" or some other insult. Then again, I am very hypersensitive. Well, I have never seen Goren be what I percieved as "rude" to Eames ever again. LOL!
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Post by trisha on Jun 15, 2005 19:10:55 GMT -5
NM, I also think it was a tad condescending but also meant to drive the point home that it is out of the ordinary for diamond holding thieves to continue to use a stolen credit card, as well as to establish Goren as the profiler.
There are a lot of character defining moments and exchanges in this episode. Which ones do you guys think are the best ones?
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Post by romulanavatra3 on Jun 16, 2005 4:12:30 GMT -5
nicolemarie and Trisha i agree with you about the comment by Goren, it was rather condescendingly towards eames. it reminds of the first season episode smothered when eames said something about sharks and Goren rather condescendingly corrects her about sharks not having scales( and the look she gave him was classic). i mean in early season Goren was at times borderline rude to eames on some occasions not really rude but not far off. i mean yes he was friendly to her but some times he just seemed to assume that she was completely understanding him and failed to realizes that eames might be having trouble understanding(or working out his particularly logic or some element of the overall picture). one episode he was quite rude, i forgot which season it was but he was quite nasty to eames more than once in the episode( not intentionally but the way he addressed her was very rude and quite uncaring). in season three in particularly Goren really takes the time realize how much eames brings to the table the episode this was most notable was in the last bishop episode. the thing i really found interesting in one is when Alex broke into the Cadillac with some sort of device(now iam ammusing she does carry around one just in case all the cars encounter are locked). but what also intrested me in one was the way Alex actually told Goren she prefers to listen than to watch(i found it interesting because i think Alex was a little perplexed by the way Goren was constly pause the video tapes in the same spot over and over). the only thing i found odd about One was when deakins told Goren off for not touching all the bases( i mean jeez he probably touches all the bases and a hole lot more not literally, but i dont think deakins would be telling Goren for that now). regards all ROM.
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Post by trisha on Jun 16, 2005 16:18:52 GMT -5
Well, no one likes to be wrong, Rom I have a different take on the shark scale scene and would love to hear more about the other times you feel Goren was rude or borderline rude to Eames.
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Post by RivErStaR on Jun 16, 2005 21:27:19 GMT -5
I always find this episode a right hoot and have a hard time keeping a straight face during the first scene. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great introductory episode but the whole "I'm Detective Eames this is Detective Goren. Tell us what you've got here" exchange appears forced and unnaturally choppy. Perhaps it's way the other detective delivers his lines ... I don't know, there's just something about it that makes me laugh. As for Goren's "Yes, but does it bother you?" comment to Eames, I never took it as being condescending at all. As Rom pointed out, it's just all part of his personality re the shark scale comment. He can't help but notice little things and his question to her in this particular scene is just his way of showing her what he's thinking. I think it's just his way of keeping her up to speed because he uses the "they've just stolen diamonds but are maxing out stolen credit cards" theory to prove that the guy they have in custody isn't part of the crime. Hope it makes sense; it seems like a jumble of incoherance! ;D
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Post by romulanavatra3 on Jun 17, 2005 1:02:14 GMT -5
one scene in one i found interesting was the one where eames was talking to the jeweler, i find this interesting because since then it seems eames is almost the resident jeweler, i having a feeling that eames may very well be a qualified jeweler, but choose to join the police instead becoming a practicing jeweler. i also think that even though we hear goren talking about libaries i think eames is just as much at home in them as he is. trisha what your take on the shark fish scale scene i would be very intrested to know. reagrds all rom
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