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Post by NikkiGreen on Feb 8, 2005 19:55:57 GMT -5
Looks like Logan is getting off of Staten Island.
According to Variety, Chris Noth will be regular on CI next season.
He'll be in about 11 episodes and VDO will be in a similar number of episodes.
The ladies on the Reel site have posted the entire article.
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Post by NicoleMarie on Feb 8, 2005 20:25:58 GMT -5
UGH Kill me now!
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Post by NikkiGreen on Feb 8, 2005 20:49:24 GMT -5
Here's the whole article from Associated Press:
Posted on Tue, Feb. 08, 2005
Chris Noth has new 'Law & Order' duty
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES - Chris Noth's guest appearance this weekend on "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" is the start of something big.
Noth, who left the original "Law & Order" 10 years ago, will become a regular on the spinoff beginning next season, series spokeswoman Pam Ruben Golum said Tuesday.
He will split duties with current series lead Vincent D'Onofrio, who's continuing as police Detective Robert Goren. Each actor will appear in 11 episodes for the fifth season. The NBC series airs 9 p.m. EST Sunday.
Noth's casting will ease the work load for D'Onofrio, who was hospitalized briefly last year for exhaustion.
"The hardest job in show business is being a single lead on an hour drama series," said "Law & Order" creator and executive producer Dick Wolf. Vincent has done an unbelievable job for the last four seasons, but after 3 1/2 years, the grueling pace finally took its toll."
He called Noth's addition to the show an "ideal solution."
Noth, who was Sarah Jessica Parker's love interest, Mr. Big, on HBO's "Sex and the City," will again play police Detective Mike Logan, his character from 1990-95 on "Law & Order."
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Post by NicoleMarie on Feb 8, 2005 20:52:34 GMT -5
UGH KILL ME KILL ME I'll skip the Noth shows! Sorry Eames! Once Vincent leaves CI, I am definitley gonna stop watching now!! Now we know how Goren leaves. ( I think.)
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Post by trisha on Feb 8, 2005 21:36:40 GMT -5
Holy crap! [/Frank Barone] NicoleMarie, come on, give the guy a shot! Aren't you the one who wants no more of this soapy Goren stuff, and more of the straight up crime solving? I think that's what we're gonna get from Logan. Plus, he's pretty snarky, so, pairing him with Eames could lead to some great stuff. My first concern is what excuse will be used for Goren taking breaks from the MCS. I hope it will be something like he's being borrowed by the Feds the way B.D. Wong is borrowed on SVU (see, I have seen it, I don't criticize it blind!) or perhaps he can be working on that terrorism task force ... I'm just hoping against hope that it's going to have nothing to do with his mother, or him needing some *personal* time. My second concern is how much personal and intellectual growth we will be seeing in Logan. He was a hot head on the mothership, and he didn't have a great understanding of psychological motivations. That won't work on this show; not if it's going to stay with it's original premise: criminal intent. Other than that, I'm pretty freak'n excited to see where this is going to go
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Post by NicoleMarie on Feb 8, 2005 22:11:41 GMT -5
My dislike of Logan is not storyline related...I hated Logan on the regular L&O. IF Logan will be the same jack@ss on CI that he was on L&O, then bye-bye CI for me. And since Noth is playing Logan again, I cannot imagine him not being that same jack@ss. I'm not criticizing blindy, I'm preparing myself for the worst- from experience!
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Post by NicoleMarie on Feb 8, 2005 22:13:09 GMT -5
P.S.- Love the Bush diss. I told my husband if he voted for Bush like he was going to, he would sleep on the couch for the next four years!
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Post by NikkiGreen on Feb 8, 2005 22:29:34 GMT -5
I guess I'm the opposite. I thought the team of Logan and Briscoe was the best. Curtis, I didn't care for. Green, I like. We'll find out on Sunday how mellowed out Logan has become! ;D He was a pretty good cop. Should be interesting where things lead. ETA: Trisha, I still think that your signature line is
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Post by darmok on Feb 8, 2005 22:36:23 GMT -5
This is definitely NOT good news. Certainly, it could be worse; at least D'Onofrio is not gone altogether. And I'm being selfish here. It could be a good thing for D'Onofrio - to lighten his workload.
I also wonder how Logan will work into the "Criminal Intent" aspect of the show. I don't think the character is right for this show. From the few pages I read of the Stress Position script on the Reel site, he's still a hothead.
And to be totally superficial, Chris Noth (expecially 10 years older than his last stint) isn't nearly as good looking as D'Onofrio.
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Post by js on Feb 8, 2005 22:44:52 GMT -5
The only good that I can see coming from this is that VDO will have time to make some more good movies that will show were I can see them, and he won't be overworked.
js
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Post by Patcat on Feb 8, 2005 22:55:27 GMT -5
Oh, I'll certainly give the show a chance. And I have no problem with Mr. Noth, and I have no real problem with Logan. But it does seem to me that Logan isn't nearly as interesting a character as Goren, but then, again, we didn't really get into Logan's head.
I'm disappointed in that I like Goren and want to see him as much as possible. But if this works for Mr. D'Onofrio and Mr. Wolf and everyone, well, good!
I just hope we don't lose Kathryn Erbe as well.
Patcat
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Post by velocity on Feb 8, 2005 23:21:44 GMT -5
I just picked myself off the floor after this blast from the Wolfmeister. I can understand that V needs a break, but man, this is not the way. I cannot tolerate Noth either and frankly my biggest pull to watch CI has and always will be Vincent. No Vincent, no me is the bottom line.
I fear some of the nonesense talk that happened when Vincent fainted is true after all. Noth was pulled in on a perminent basis. The oh the hours were just too much for Vincent after thought comment, I believe is doo-doo.
Like some said, Vincent will look for other work. The man, by his own admission, gets itchy for work after a couple of weeks off. He will find those movie parts or even direct. He certainly will not rest.
This was on the drawing board all along and they just now slipped it in and make it sound like a news flash.
I am depressed. No, I will not give Noth any chance. I did not like him in L&O, as Mr Big - deal, et al. CI is Vincent. What happens in the 5th Season is a morph of what it was. I would love to hear an honest comment from Vincent on this. Is this what he wanted also or did it just come down from the Wolfman.
ok, I am upset and ranting emotionally
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Post by MelTex on Feb 8, 2005 23:34:04 GMT -5
Dang! Logan being a regular in season 5 came straight outta the blue to me! I'm not really surprised D'Onofrio is needing the break, and I'm glad they worked it out so we can still have Goren ( gotta have my Goren fix) Logan seems, from what I've read in the script from STRESS POSITIONS on Reel site, to still have a little of the old hothead in him. Tho I think he's mellowed some. I'm curious to see how they are going to continue with the criminal intent side, without Goren's profiling. Also, I'm curious to see how Eames will work with Logan for an extended period of time. I wonder if they are just going to keep the show going after season 5 with Logan, after VDO leaves the series? I really like Logan, and I'll certainly watch season 5 with he and Goren together...but after D'Onofrio leaves for good...eh, the show won't be the same for me. *sigh* And yea, on a purely personal note, D'Onofrio is WAY more attractive to me too. The little-boy grin gets me every time *grin*. Noth is handsome as well, don't get me wrong...but there is just something more magnetic about D'Onofrio. ;D
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Post by Techguy on Feb 8, 2005 23:42:39 GMT -5
I was willing to accept Chris Noth reprising his Mike Logan for a ONE TIME ONLY guest appearance on CI, with the prospect of him butting heads with Det. Goren the main attraction. I am not too keen on the idea of him appearing in half the CI episodes next season precisely because his hothead character Mike Logan just doesn't fit in with the CRIMINAL INTENT premise.
Yes, I understand Dick Wolf et al want to ease the workload for Vincent D'Onofrio. But as other posters have already mentioned, D'Onofrio won't use the time off to rest--he'll be starring in movies or directing, maybe doing more of the Orson Welles type project he did this past summer. Isn't this type-A behavior one of the reasons he suffered from exhaustion a while back?
I don't know if I'm willing to give the CI episodes with Chris Noth a chance next year. What might sway me one way or another will be how I respond to the upcoming CI episode "Stress Position." But that might not be a realistic litmus test since SS will feature BOTH D'Onofrio and Noth. I'm having a hard time imagining Noth carrying the CI stories in the episodes he's in, unless a larger role is planned for Kathryn Erbe as Eames, in preparation for the time when D'Onofrio hangs up his binder for good.
And like Trisha, I'm wondering how the CI writers are going to explain Goren's absence from half the episodes. Please tell me the descent into darkness this season isn't a prelude to mounting emotional pressures related to his mother taking a toll on him. *Shudder*
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Post by MelTex on Feb 9, 2005 0:20:26 GMT -5
I'm having a hard time imagining Noth carrying the CI stories in the episodes he's in, unless a larger role is planned for Kathryn Erbe as Eames, in preparation for the time when D'Onofrio hangs up his binder for good.
And like Trisha, I'm wondering how the CI writers are going to explain Goren's absence from half the episodes. Please tell me the descent into darkness this season isn't a prelude to mounting emotional pressures related to his mother taking a toll on him. *Shudder*
*shutter* God I HOPE they don't destroy Goren's memory by having him crash and burn in his spiral into darkness. That would just be wrong -- not to mention pissing off a TON of fans (me included). I may talk about Goren-psychopthy online, for the fun of it...does NOT mean I want to see it in the show. They'll probably write him as being borrowed by FBI or some other intelligence agency. And, of course D'Onofrio won't use the 'ease-up on episode load' in S 5 to rest. Jeeze...with his "always gotta do something" personality, he'll be directing, writing and staring in another independent film...and probably writing a novel on character acting on the side (jk) (smirk...if he could squeeze 25 hours out of the day, he'd probably do it) I fully believe the man suffered exhaustion episodes...jeeze...too much on his plate at one time, ya think?!?!? I'm up for a stronger role for Eames though. That would be kinda cool. Though, I'm really (now that I think about it more) kinda getting more and more worried about the Logan S 5 episodes, where its just him and Eames, and no Goren. Man...no Goren?! I may watch a few of those eps, just out of pure curiosity,...but I have a sneaky suspicion...they're gonna suck! Logan is fine for one episode, he doesn't fit in the CI world for long periods...it just doesn't work. The S 5 11 episodes with Goren, of course I'll watch. I dunno... I think Wolfy-boy is playing with fire...altering the CI universe like that...Logan alone in eps with no Goren. I don't think its gonna fly...VDO is Goren--and Goren is CI! And he knew what kind of corner he was painting himself into when he created CI surrounding a single main character so much...take that character out...and no more CI! AHHH! *whimpers* Ok, now, I'm gonna have nightmares of CI and Goren's desk is empty. *shakes head*
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