Post by diablodeblanco on Aug 24, 2008 21:09:37 GMT -5
I enjoyed watching it because I like the actors. It, for me, didn't have any LOCI feel. More of a SVU thing. Over the top on personal stuff to build a plot around. I hope this is the end of this kind of writing and next season get back to LOCI.
I did enjoy but not for the reasons I have enjoyed the LOCI of past seasons.
[eta: quick correction. The tit for tat note was def. Nicole-her kiss on the note.]
Want to apologize for being a thread hog, but I have to get this all off my blotter in 15 min before I go back to two hours of lesson prep, followed by the re-watch ... o me. Compliments to the writers for keeping me guessing--and relatively captivated-- at 9:37, even with the four-minute spoiler.
Just some things I noticed:
--first clue (had one not been spoiled) that Gage was the "2nd shooter": when he complains about not being listened to. Per Gage, per "Blind Spot," that's what profilers are supposed to do for killers.
--Nicole's "big doe eyes" when Gage kills her=direct setting of N and Mama "Bambi" in parallel. Very nice--I hadn't seen that one even if the writers had.
--More parallelism: Goren pushing Declan in the wheelchair=Goren pushing Mama. He's been a caregiver all his life. Poss. why he won't let himself be taken care of (did I ship? Oops ).
--Parallelism also seemed (POSSIBLY) to be written in vis a vis the last Logan episodes (or at least, they used flashbacks). I'd have to revisit "Last Rites," though.
--Exactly a year since "Brother's Keeper" (Mama Goren's b'day).
--Gage, Ross both at Mama's funeral.
--Flashbacks were restrained/effective. I predict for this to be a rerun classic that will re-acquaint people with the show.
--Junkie brother dead=a classic LOCI kind of a storyline, if you think about it ("Probability"--and, of course, "Grow.")
--Gage trying to understand Jo (writing that book) was somewhat redemptive. Jo eating her tongue, though--was--a little too Silence of the Lambs.
--Gage's complaints about "getting lost" when Bobby talks. Gage understands his diminishing capacities, but he's likely always been jealous of Bobby's superior intellect.
--On a shallow note, this was the first time I liked Rodgers as a blonde. SHe must look better IRL--she has such blue eyes. I thought everybody else looked pretty good, too.
--This was the first Eames was hearing of Goren's DNA test??? But she suspected, of course.
--Ross calling Rodgers "Elizabeth" and Goren saying "your girlfriend"=whoah. Heh. And the way he holds Ross' eyes in that scene!
--Telling that Eames is the one sensitive to the "gaslighting." One just amazing moment when Eames tells Ross "I have a witness." Ostensibly it's Gage she's referring to, but the whole shtick about people who've survived a serial killer being witnesses (which I didn't write down but might later) ... that's about her, Eames. Very nicely played, again--sweet, even.
--Loved Eames getting to explain herself to Gage the way she did: all of that, yeah, but not against my partner. Once again, KE is the best thing on tv.
--Don't forget that Jo's death frees Eames, too (and Frank's, and Nicole's, I'd argue .... but Jo's death quite obviously frees her former captive in some way). That we get no overt mention of this seems very much in line with Eames' characterization on the show. Let me tell you, she is a wonderful character.
--Gage was the devil speaking truth, also about Eames, about how she didn't remind him of his mother and Nicole. I found that whole exchange fascinating.
Biggest structural complaint is that, for the whole thing to work, Gage had to have been Goren's confidant. Given the "tit for tat" note, he must have said A LOT; given Gage's retention of all that, Gage must have been obsessing about Goren a LOT. One wonders why he would have confided in Gage, but I suppose it speaks to Goren's humanity. Meanwhile, Gage continued focussed on redeeming himself until the end. Which--and here's someplace else that I think we can give the writers credit for perceptivity--is what has been Goren's issue all this season as well. Redeeming himself.
That last scene was certainly touching enough. Biggest gratification to me was how quiet and dignified it all was, even so. And it was sleight of hand, yes, but it also worked for the most part. Here's to Season 8. And to answer Tech Guy's question: yes, I think he is. Given answers, he's being forced to grieve and to move on.
Last Edit: Aug 26, 2008 20:26:50 GMT -5 by deathroe
"I didn't take this job to get noticed"--the sadly fictional Detective Alex Eames
Of course he's not free. Your past stays with you. There's no such thing as a clean slate, and if Declan Gage wasn't a freaked out egocentric idiot and the great psychiatrist he's supposed to be, then he'd know that. Bobby still has to deal with the knowledge of being Brady's son. He has to deal with Frank's lies and the fact Frank was killed because of his connection to Bobby. But the great weights on Bobby are gone, and he does have a chance to be free of those and the chance to start again.
I have to admit to a feeling of "Ding, Dong, the witch is dead!" The Evil One is gone, and I don't think she's coming back. And as far as Frank is concerned, my feeling is Good Riddance. He was consistent to the end, refusing to accept responsibility and trying to manipulate people. And to tell Donnie's Mom that Bobby couldn't or wouldn't help his nephew!
There were enough plot holes to drive a truck through--if Bobby hadn't happened by to visit Frank and found his body, what would've happened? How did Declan know so much, particularly about Bobby's parenthood?
Poor Gwen. I hoped she might not get sick.
Declan was also remarkably consistent--his dismissal of Eames beyond something he could use continued, and was the great weakness in his analysis of Bobby.
I may be reading too much and I've only seen the episode once, but I saw an underlying theme of the strength of the Goren and Eames relationship. The first thing we see in the episode is the two of them working in perfect tandem, and they remain connected throughout the show. (In a purely non-shippy way, I wish Goren would've told Declan that he did have one person he could count on--Eames).
Some great acting in this episode. Let's hear it for Leslie Hendrix, showing what she can do with good stuff. Erbe is just wonderful. And John Glover and Mr. D'Onofrio were great in their final confrontation. I loved how the direction of that scene went from Bobby being the interrogated to being the interrogator.
That was quite a ride. There was quite a decent puzzle there for a while, but when they revealed that the heart was postmarked before the attack on Declan, he moved to the top of the suspect list.
That aria started out so conventionally, with Goren spotting the subtle signs of Declan's deterioration. (I had wondered what was up with all of that candy.) Then Declan completely turns the tables, pointing out that no one who was supposed to come through for Bobby ever had, so he, the surrogate father, had taken it upon himself to do so. I don't think I would have guessed the Declan - Nicole partnership angle.
So which Goren do we get back next year - one who feels free, or one who is even more weighed down with guilt than ever? The one thing I haven't liked about some episodes this last season has been the petulance and self-pity that mostly comes out when Gore deals with Ross, who seems to be Goren's current authority figure stand-in. So does Goren see himself as a victim, which Gage seemed to imply ("no one came through for you"), or does he finally make the break with his past? And does he break with the past because Frank and Nicole are gone, or because this is all so preposterous that he has to decide that there are some things he can't control?
M.E. Rodgers is allowed to demand that Goren stand in the hallway and receive his autopsy results through a slot in the door for the entirety of Season 8. Confidentiality or no, a gentleman does not destroy a lady's morgue.
Please kick me off this thread if you see me posting again. Sunday night is a school night!
You know, I'm sure you're right, Patcat, about the holes,* but I'm just happy that it was such a terrific effort. And the acting was FTW. Loved it. Loved how un-hysterical it all was compared to "Endgame," even though I liked "Endgame" quite a bit, too. I think Wally would have been a great addition to this episode, actually ...
*Gage's knowing about Nicole and "Tit for tat" could have come from a much earlier time (even though he hadn't physically seen the man for ten years before "Blind Spot," they may have corresponded. So Patcat makes a fair point about not speaking, and about Declan not being Goren's confidant after Jo's arrest. I stand corrected.)
[edit: Not free, no, but free as he's gonna be, one assumes. That' s the most that any of us can ever really say, methinks :/ )
Last Edit: Aug 24, 2008 21:40:24 GMT -5 by deathroe
"I didn't take this job to get noticed"--the sadly fictional Detective Alex Eames