1:05 - "Jones" 2001-10-21

[Eléana]

Oh yes, that's right, the dance. Got me so jealous, I almost smashed my computer screen (playing the DVD) lol

[trisha]

sarahivy said:

I am not going to go anywhere near any nose/foot/hand size discussion (originally I typed that I wasn't going to "touch it with a ten foot pole" but that just seemed gratuitous )

LOL!!!

I agree with everything else you wrote, and will one up you on that dance scene with the memory of Goren "hitting on" and dancing with Margie in Pas De Duex. **sigh**

[spaniard]

It was the Goren we all like, very good with people that suffer and very bad with those who make others suffer. I loved how he wanted to help that blind wife who couldn´t accept the truth, I would have sent her to hell in 10 seconds but he tries to make her accept what´s going on. Of course he did it because he needed her help but at the same time he does itbecause he cares, it´s one of the episodes where you see more clearly that they care about the victims, the past and the future ones. They don´t want to work with the chief because they want to stick to their case, he says 'I like Angie' and I love it.

And I also love a man that likes to dance.

About size, we all use our physical condition for our own profit, I´m small and I never carry bags or boxes when my friends move to another place, I always bring the snacks (and I eat them while the others work). It´s obvious that Henry looks for women that are very small so they see him as a big powerful man and he is a womanizer because he feels unsecure. Cops know it and use it against him. Eames humilliates Henry rejecting him in front of another man and Goren uses his own size (body size, girls ) to make Henry feel less man. Goren doesn´t use the word 'short', always uses the word 'small'.

This episode is a classic, without evidences, the only way to get the bad guy is to make him confess and they only get it pushing the most hidden button.

[Eléana]

Spaniard, what you said is very true. Goren can be a little sadistic towards the perps sometimes, especially the guys. You can see that in Jones, Pas de Deux, etc. He definately uses his size (as in height, body size, for all you naughty girls out there, including myself, lol) as his advantage during the psychological warfare. Although it's kind scary seeing Donny in Pas de Deux being taller than Goren. I wonder how many times these two bumped into the door frames while walking.

[spaniard]

Yeah, hard to find a house high enough for these two!

I guess in Pas de deux the guy had to be tall as well, otherwise it would have been too gay and too weird (like if the scene wasn't weird enough). I still don´t see the need of that dance though, maybe Goren wanted to show Donnie that he was Weirdo 1st degree and no-one else. ;D

[Eléana]

Hahahaha, you made me laugh hard spaniard. Ok, I'll give you that one. Goren is the weirdo 1st degree. I think he just danced with Donny to distract everyone while Eames slipped the Vitamin C pills into his pocket. Nevertheless, it's really funny scene. As for the height, which episode was it, where Goren and Eames went to search this private jet, and he complains about the space being too tight, while Eames is walking around just fine. In that scene, Goren couldn't even strighten his neck because his head was already touching the celling. Man, how does VDO take airplanes?

[Techguy]

OK, so let NO ONE on this board inquire as to my shoe or glove size, or whether I've had a nose job. ;D

[Eléana]

Huh? What do you mean?

[Cassie]

What I liked about this show, besides all of the silly stuff, was that the storyline started out as a possible "serial killer" and ended up being a "spree killer". It gave the episode more depth

[Techguy]

eleana said:

Huh? What do you mean?

If you go back to the earlier posts on this thread, you will see references to Det. Goren's shoe size, hands and someone even made mention of nose in reference to...well, you should get the idea.

[Eléana]

What? But we weren't talking about you. Sorry, I'm having a slow brain processing moment here.

[SarahIvy]

Techguy is a guy, and he was making a joke about the discussion some were having above in regards to nose/hand/foot size.

A pretty good joke too, got a snicker out of me

[Eléana]

Sorry, but I still don't get the joke. Today must not be my day, my brain just isn't functioning.

[spaniard]

thank you Techguy, now 'nose job' has a whole new meaning to me. ;D

The only dark point about this episode is how they relate the third victim to the others (the third one is the runner), looks sketchy because the only real fact is that she is short. It´s NY, I guess more than one person is killed everyday and nobody relates the deaths just because of the height. But well, it's a really tiny detail that doesn´t kill the fun of this episode. Ok, a little extra bad detail, how 5 women + wife could find this slimy man attractive?

[Eléana]

Henry did say that he makes the women happy by listening to them. As a girl, I know that it's just such a pain in the butt when people don't listen to us, and all we ever want is for someone to listen and understand. I guess Henry used that universal weakness of the females. (But by this logic, wouldn't more girls be attracted to Goren? He listens, watches, notices, and a lot more... )