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Post by Techguy on Dec 11, 2006 21:00:41 GMT -5
When Mimi coughs so violently in La Boheme, you just know this detail will play itself out in the final act. When the gun was waved around on camera in WW, I just knew it was going to go off sooner or later.
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 11, 2006 21:45:09 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by elizabethbay on Dec 12, 2006 0:48:30 GMT -5
Well, I raced to put this one in the DVD player. Ran all the way from the post box (thank you, glorious Anon American Benefactress), tripping over children and large dog. Forty-two minutes later, and I have to say I thought this episode stank. Great script lines, good performances generally from Noth (although sluggish) and Bogosian (surprisingly nuanced here), also a big nod to the little druggie-girlfriend, the classic loser in the best L&O tradition, and to the kidnapper/actor, a very watchable creature. Everything else mediocre, most appallingly the rest of the performances. I've come to count on great acting up and down the hierarchy of parts in the L&O universe, whatever else may go south from time to time. Even the usually delicious character actor who played the film school director seemed to be doing a first read-through. I dunno, the majority of the cast seemed to be on a learning curve. Is this poor direction? Poor editing? Poor casting? A combination? Something was seriously off, and it all rang second-rate to me. IMO
Edit: And now I've just finished watching Blasters. I loved it for all the reasons I dismissed Willow - in fact, if Law & Order: Criminal Intent does ever turn into L&O Major Case Squad, as someone has suggested here, I could make the transition if this ep were the template for the new-look LOCI
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Post by Cassie on Dec 12, 2006 21:29:39 GMT -5
I wasn’t that crazy about this episode. The ear really freaked me out. I do not feel that we had to see the removal of the ear. The scene where Rogers tells Wheeler , as they are looking at the ear that its the same blood type as what was found in Willow’s apartment would have been enough info about the severed ear for me. Thank you...Gore is just not my thing However, Willows parents I found to be the most disturbing. Do you think in our society., that the courts are starting to see a high number of teen and young adults who parents are in their 60’s like Willows? Clueless as to what their kids are up to. Yeah yeah , I know….you don’t have to be 60 years old to be clueless, when raising kids.. But I now wonder, since some couples do wait to have kids later in life. what the statistics are for the age of the parents of the teens and young adults who are now getting in trouble.
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 13, 2006 7:55:56 GMT -5
...vs violent TV, video games, single-parent households, easier access to recreational drugs and a myriad of other influences, you mean? I guess I could blame it ALL on the parents. I have to say I thought this episode stank. Great script lines, good performances Everything else mediocre. Is this poor direction? Poor editing? Poor casting? A combination? Something was seriously off, and it all rang second-rate to me. IMO It's just a show. Sometimes I think we expect every episode to be emmy-award winning and full or mirror-meaning and operatic symbolism which would be nice but a bit exhausting for someone like me who just wants to relax at the end of a long day and be entertained. I find even an average episode of LO:ci (of which this one wasn't) still emminently watchable.
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Post by elizabethbay on Dec 13, 2006 9:30:01 GMT -5
My point bein': I wasn't entertained. I was so bored I couldn't wait for the DVD to stop. (I was fascinated by the interspersed regional American commercials, though). Not using The White Goddess or Tannhauser yardsticks, either. Personally, I'm not inclined, as you know, to run a myth-and-symbol detector over every ep of LOCI, although I can see where it's fun to do so. As for a good aria, to me it can redeem a bad ep, but it's not the acid test of a good one. This one goes in my "Graansha" bag for never to be repeated. Some of you have a "View From Up Here" bag , I've noticed. Everybody has preferences. A mediocre ep of LOCI is watchable, sure, but not kick-back enjoyable, not for this little black duck.
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Post by LOCIfan on Dec 13, 2006 14:31:11 GMT -5
Wow, Janet! Another fantastic analysis. Thanks for posting this. I guess you found some depth to this one after all.
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Post by LOCIfan on Dec 13, 2006 14:52:57 GMT -5
Fair enough, elizabethbay. That's the way I felt about Blasters.
I rewatched this episode, one of the few I've done that with this season, and enjoyed it even more the second time around. The hoax, no hoax stuff is a great meditation on what's real and what's fiction, where the two intersect and where they're absolutely incompatible. Not to mention the satiric commentary on celebrity and what it means in today's society. In some ways this is a nice companion episode to "Unrequited" also written by SenGupta. Good stuff! What surprises me most is that it came wrapped up in a Logan/Wheeler package.
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Post by sobergal95 on Dec 13, 2006 16:32:11 GMT -5
Just an observation but has anyone else noticed that the Logan/Wheeler episodes have all been so different than previous seasons? I mean in "Maltese Cross", they started in the middle and told the story through flashbacks etc, which was something CI hadn't done yet. "Blasters" they had the music through the teaser, and this episode was a little different too. It just seems maybe they feel a little freer to experiment with different things.
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Post by Techguy on Dec 13, 2006 16:46:55 GMT -5
I agree LOCIfan--"Weeping Willow" is sharp, witty, and very observant. It's one of my favorite Logan episodes ever.
Sobergal95, I agree there has been experimenting with new/different audio and visuals in the Logan/Wheeler episodes this season. However, I would also argue they are representative of overall changes on CI, as there are such elements in the Goren/Eames episodes too, such as the stalker cam ("Blind Spot" and "Siren Call"). "Siren Call" is also especially notorious for the juxtaposition of sexual images with the violence, and showing more graphically an on-screen ultra-suicide-by-cop. (This might be a good topic to explore further on a General CI Discussion thread).
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Post by maherjunkie on Jul 25, 2010 10:57:21 GMT -5
Does anybody think Logan would have really planted drugs in Reggie's girlfriend's house? He seems too ethical for all that.
And why are his episodes never EOTW?
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Post by Patcat on Jul 25, 2010 15:25:04 GMT -5
Logan episodes will eventually be EOTW. I try to go back as far as I can with the seasons, and that leads to Goren/Eames episodes.
Patcat
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