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Post by sobergal95 on Dec 15, 2006 17:26:24 GMT -5
And just an interesting "repeat offender" tidbit: the actor who played the "good dude Albanaian" cop who told them about the Albanian mob, and about the Code of Lek, etc, was also in the season 5 mothership episode where Logan slugs the city councilman and ends up busted over to Staten Island. Goodness, I'm an observant little nerd.
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 15, 2006 17:39:24 GMT -5
You're much more observant than me, sobergal95-slash-wally!
Betsy: Rene said there was an easter egg in one of the episodes but I suspect that there may be more than one. Trisha's already spotted the Rescue Me tag and my spidey sense aka suspicion radar, honed from watching so many L&O is perking up. Things like cast and crew sightings in crowd scenes or unobstrusive walk-on parts or...well who knows what?
It's sneaky.
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Post by Techguy on Dec 15, 2006 18:20:20 GMT -5
I don't think LO cares that much about the male demographic - it's, and always has been, their girlfriends they're after. I wouldn't have guessed this, based on CI's overt use of sexualized images this season. Then again, I think this season is shaping up unlike any other.
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 15, 2006 19:04:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't have guessed this, based on CI's overt use of sexualized images this season. Then again, I think this season is shaping up unlike any other. Yes, I know what you mean on both counts, Techguy. Even though I sense an approach to more sexualized violence and I feel just like you and Mr. Balcer, that it is a very dangerous path to climb and is only being done now from a point of view of sheer laziness, I don't think the show has jumped there yet. It's just unnervingly inching it's way in that direction. I still think they are appealing to the same demographic they always were: Women 18- 40-something, for the most part professionals. I see it this way because of the adverts that interrupt the show. Women, in this demographic, are usually in some kind of relationship, married or whatever and this is the demographic that makes most of the major purchasing decisions in the family. i.e buying houses, cars, or even what entertainment to watch that evening. (Women rule, man! ) I think even though the tone of the episodes has changed (and I see Leight's influence here, rather than a show-turning change) and become more slick and more episodes seem male-oriented, I don't think much, in that respect, has really changed. After all Willow was the crux of the gamer/blogger episode. She was the instigator, the victim and the author, if not the originator of the blog. Everyone, cop and robber, whether they knew it or not, was chasing after her! Maybe we just assume that tech stuff is the domain of guys and LO:ci is doing what they always have - that is challenging our preconceptions. In the same vein, as a society, we seem to be more shocked when women commit crime, especially violent crime. (Willow didn't commit violence but she didn't seem too worried when it came her way.) Yet for a number reasons, not just because more women are becoming criminals but because new approaches to psychology and criminology and better, more open investigation techniques are unearthing links between women and violence more these days, we are slowly realizing that women are just as capable of it as men. LO:ci has access to cutting edge thinking in this realm are they are not afraid to explore this in a semi-fictional setting. PS this season is shaping up to be unlike any other! I must admit I'm enjoying it. Season six has new lent new life to the series for me.
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Post by Techguy on Dec 15, 2006 19:16:43 GMT -5
Women rule, man! I You'll get no argument from either Mrs. T or me on that score!Willow was the crux of the gamer/blogger episode. Exactly! And she was shown very prominently shaking her booty and displaying her "assets" in the opening teaser. If this wasn't directed at the adolescent male and/or like-minded emotionally stunted of the male gender, I don't know what is.
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 15, 2006 19:19:25 GMT -5
Yeah, she shook it! ;D But so did Liza Minelli's and Claire Blooms characters - maybe not as much, nor as tightly, but certainly with the same intent. Also I'm editing as I go but I wanted to say that of all the seriously difficult criminals that have come Goren's way, the women have given him the most heat: Nicole Wallace (of course), Isabella Carnicki, Willow - they all got away! Am I missing anyone?
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 15, 2006 21:23:26 GMT -5
I thought an overriding theme of this episode was immaturity and stunted growth and certainly illustrated from male-centric point of view. Guys took a beating in this one.
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Post by Techguy on Dec 16, 2006 0:42:52 GMT -5
of all the seriously difficult criminals that have come Goren's way, the women have given him the most heat: Nicole Wallace (of course), Isabella Carnicki, Willow - they all got away! Am I missing anyone? Willow escaped Logan's clutches, at least for the time being. Ditto Chesley Watkins, thanks to her boys killing each other off, getting shot dead by Logan, or leaping off tall buildings rather than cross Big Mama.
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Post by Sirenna on Dec 16, 2006 9:07:02 GMT -5
Yes, It was Logan who missed. Hmm, shows I still think of the net and hook as a Goren thing irregardless of who's doing the catching. Chelsey was in another episode I missed. She sounds scary.
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